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Permalink Reply by CEE GEE on October 10, 2011 at 12:24pm

What's up Terrier...I saw the pic on my phone which is really small...it looks kind of odd...I got to get a better look on the computer...really not sure

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on October 10, 2011 at 1:44pm

I flagged it because it carries a JSA sticker, and I am really surprised they would pass this. they should know better.  Let me know what you think when you get a better look at it!

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on October 10, 2011 at 2:18pm

Cee Gee, this is the vintage '61 Mantle on my '61 team signed ball.  the "M" is very similar to his later day "M".  In this Ebay listing, it is from 1963, and the "M" is not even close.  

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Permalink Reply by CEE GEE on October 10, 2011 at 5:53pm

Iam going to post some examples tomorrow...I think the seller may be way off on the period of that auto

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on October 10, 2011 at 7:00pm

based on the other autographs, especially those of the Indians, he is right on about the time period. early sixties.

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Permalink Reply by CEE GEE on October 12, 2011 at 10:56am

Here is a 1966 ball that I came across looking for some early Mantle playing day styled autos...your ball is a 61 this is a 66 and seller is claiming his is 63...so all in all that style auto would be period....that being said I still don't like it...its terribly sloppy

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on October 12, 2011 at 2:12pm

Cee Gee....perfect!  Your '66 ball and my '61 ball ( I also had a '60 ball where the Mantle was still very similar to these) would seem to indicate that something is off with that signature from '63.  Even at his sloppiest, I don't see Mantle signing his M's like that.  thanks for your additional photos!

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Permalink Reply by CEE GEE on October 13, 2011 at 5:10am

yeah...as much as I love Mantle signatures....if the price is right and the auto is crumby I will most likely stay away...

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Permalink Reply by CEE GEE on October 12, 2011 at 11:12am

This is the old "clubhouse version" that's practically on every 60s team signed ball I have ever seen...the one I posted and yours are definitely authentic...The Clubhouse Mantle's and Maris's on the 1960s team ball pieces are staggering...I still don't own one with both of them on one item

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on October 12, 2011 at 2:14pm

Bingo, the clubhouse Maris and Mantles on the 60's balls (which are so prevalent) are not even close to the authentic sigs, and easily distinguished.  it is extremely difficult to find team balls with both signatures being authentic.  I am fortunate to have located the one I have, on ebay of all places!

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Permalink Reply by CEE GEE on October 12, 2011 at 11:19am

Here are 2 great authentic "Playing day" Mantle Style autos I would say from 51 up until about 59-60...the top version was his rookie style auto is what he first used and then it started changing to what looks to be like his final autograph style modified with softer rounder "M"s which he then morphed into the style on your team signed ball up until his more sharper style he used when he retired which the forger love to duplicate with the "half moons" as they say...

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