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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on February 19, 2013 at 7:42pm

That is not a Death Row COA. Says Tupac was a Death Row artist. My experience with say a company like this furnishing signed items it would be done with a letter not a COA like this. If you forged a COA from Death Row you would not get a knock on your door. First they not that smart to find you, they arn't the mob. Second they are punks ........a drive by maybe.

Last time Suge knocked on a door in AZ he got whooped and put in the hospital. Yeah he's GANGSTA!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCwt5r1acfU

 

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Permalink Reply by Mykaphobic on February 19, 2013 at 8:17pm

I don't think you guys are understanding. Or maybe I am not getting my point across properly.
There are many 2pac items with a deathrow Coa which are signed by Suge. There are about 20 of these that I know of in existence. These were aparently signed for deathrow for promo purposes.

Now if these are "fake" why would Suge sign the Coa?

If the Coa and suges auto is fake why would he allow it? Would you let items be sold with a fake Coa and someone faking your signature on the Coa? No. Nobody would. We would take the person to court. Suge would do the same or as I previously said demand the $50,000 that these "fake" photos have generated.

How would Suge know these photos are out? They have been listed and shown on every 2pac and deathrow site created.

This makes me believe they are authentic. I'm not talking about some website that's listed. I'm talking about the original photo of this blog and the ones I showed.

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on February 19, 2013 at 8:29pm

OK, if you think its authentic than buy it. It's your money. I'm not grasping what your trying to achieve. Send one in for a quick opinion to somebody. If it is confirmed then buy it. Just think, If somebody forged the Tupac why wouldn't they forge Knight?

Using your theory why would Mickey Mantle or Joe Dimaggio not have taken forgers to court? Its really not that easy. For every forged Tupac autograph I'd bet there are 5,000 or more Mantle's, Dimaggio's or Ali's. 5,000:1 might not even be a high enough estimate. Pinpointing where these originate is the hard part. Sellers will all just play dumb and say they thought they were real.

 

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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on February 19, 2013 at 8:52pm

Their are many companies out that do exactly what you are talking about. They still others COAs and use them as their own, complete with the rightful owners name on them. A good example of this are the scoreboard COAs. People have stolen them and used them as their own. Their are fake JSA and PSA certs out their as well. With every authenticator you will find fake COAs out their. It has even happened to Roger Epperson.

So would Suge Knight let this happen,, yes he would. Their is nothing in it for him to take someone to court who probably doesnt have the money for it to be worthwhile. Not only that but deathrow records or suge knight isnt going to be monitoring ebay for the occassional ebay seller who puts out a fake auto with a fake COA. It doesnt matter if these fake autographs have been plastered on every 2pac site in the world, it still wouldnt be worth anyones time to sue anyone over this. If they were being mass produced in the thousands, by a company who had money, then maybe, but certainly not with these forgeries. The writing on these photos doesnt compare really at all to his letters etc.

Im sorry to tell you this, but the COA is fake, and the autographs are all fake. People steal others COAs all th time, every day. These autograph are without a doubt not authentic, no chance whatsoever. Their is also no chance whatsoever that Suge Knight wrote a COA for any of these 2pac sigs.

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Permalink Reply by Mykaphobic on February 19, 2013 at 9:18pm

Thanks Carl.
So do you think that every 2pac photo with a deathrow certificate is fake?

As a huge 2pac fan I always believed that would be my best chance at owning something authentic.

Glad I hadn't forked out for one but they have always caught my eye.

What exactly in them convinces you they are fake?

The hand writing? The auto? The Coa? All of it?

Thanks

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Permalink Reply by J.Seah on February 19, 2013 at 9:34pm

All the Tupac posted on this discussion are fake! If you really want a Tupac autograph, there is one authentic Tupac for sale on RR Auction. Be ready to fork out good $$$ for it. It is not gonna be cheap for an authentic Tupac!!! Good Luck!!!

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Permalink Reply by Mykaphobic on February 19, 2013 at 10:25pm

Yeah I saw the one on RR. I joined them just for it. I'm more interested in that photo of Pac on the ride then the auto.
If I'm going to spend thousands on an auto it needs to be on a photo.

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Permalink Reply by Aaron Patterson on February 20, 2013 at 9:18am

Guys, its been great reading this and i appreciate the discussiuon it has brought up.

i also felt as a massive Tupac fan that the Death Row COA would be the best surely?? but then i see other peoples point, what would s.knight boither his time and people will fake anything and everything to make money out of people who want hard/rare items of idols.

all it take in any instance is one real COA ad same with the PSA scenario for someone to fake it.  Its almost enough to never make you buy antyhing, people fake passports, money and driving licenses which are damn good.

i think that R&R auction with the ride one is probably the best one i have seen. there was this one in the UK the other day and i thought amazing, was all ready to bid, then this struck my eye http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230927047386?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&...

i though amazing, one in he UK where i am, but i may be wrong but i didnt buy it because it has the details of his death. why would a COA have all his details of death? he cant sign from the grave.

just want to say thanks also to you guys, great to get advice, as i want a tupac autograph big time, or something he owned.

any help would be appreciated,. 

did you all think the above the rim photo was fake also??

that stupid thing with the cigar and glass on ebay now, oh deary me 

aaron

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Permalink Reply by J.Seah on February 20, 2013 at 9:29am

That COA is a joke. DeathRow COA issued by NYACC?? Tupac must be rolling over his grave!! lol

Anyone can cut and paste DeathRow logo on any piece on paper, envelope, COA and claim that it is from Deathrow.

I was offered a signed pictures of Tupac and Suge Knight with DeathRow Letter Head COA and DeathRow Envelope. Even that is fake!!!

Permalink Reply by Aaron Patterson on March 17, 2013 at 5:48pm

Hi again guys, found this, very same COA as previous and small card also. Maybe its real then??

Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on March 17, 2013 at 5:55pm

Maybe the forger did more than one? We might be dealing with a genious mastermind.

Permalink Reply by Aaron Patterson on March 17, 2013 at 6:11pm

Maybe, this was apparently bought in florida at an auction about 8years ago. its making me think possibly it is real and any opinions would be appreciated

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