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Permalink Reply by Rich on May 26, 2012 at 5:34pm

Wouldn't it also be much more difficult to authenticate the original signature if it's been tampered with?  

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Permalink Reply by mike d. on May 26, 2012 at 7:35pm

here the ball

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on May 27, 2012 at 6:50am

I don't care what the circumstances are, a traced over signature is basically worthless.  we talk about forgeries all the time,  a traced over signature is not a heck of a lot different, in my opinion. it is not signed in the hand of the intended signer.  not to mention it is ugly! (in general)

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Permalink Reply by Rich on May 27, 2012 at 12:36pm

I'd like to hear what JSA's justification for authenticating something like this is.  How were they able to authenticate a signature that has been decidedly tampered with?  Are they basing this solely on the age of the ball?  That seems irresponsible. 

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Permalink Reply by CEE GEE on May 29, 2012 at 4:46am

I for one am not a fan of traced autos...just like terrier says they just like terrible and to me are worthless...I hate that but it seems many collectors do it...I also hate touch ups in signatures...if something is not perfect or the ink skipped or what ever...they look just as unnatural...I have many autos that skipped or ink did not stick correctly...and just like tracing a faded auto...touching them up looks just as bad to me...

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Permalink Reply by mike d. on June 1, 2012 at 5:34pm

i asked the seller about the traced signatures - his reply was that not all of them are traced so i wrote Jimmy spence and asked him about the LOA:

Hi Mike, Apparently, that's what it states in the LOA. All signatures were later enhanced. Best, Jimmy

James Spence, Jr. JSA Lead Authenticator SpenceLOA.com

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From: <Mikede1087@aol.com>

Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 19:44:58 -0400

To: <jspence@spenceloa.com>

Subject: Cert #X13755

Cert #X13755

Click here: James Spence Authentication

Hi Jim:

ran into a JSA LOA that has me puzzled - are all the signatures traced? the seller says no but i read your LOA to say all have been traced

Roland Auctions 6/2/2012

thanks,

Mike Dempsey

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