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Jameis Winston Football w/ Heisman '13 Inscription JSA? Seems odd?

The seller of this football (they have two nearly identical balls) listed the item the same day that Jameis Winston won the Heisman award. Now I know it's possible that he got it at the event in New York, drove over to JSA's office and had it authenticated on the spot. But that just seems unlikely to me.

What does everyone think about:

a) The autograph

b) The inscription (I.e. if the autograph is good, the seller may have added the inscription themselves)

c) The JSA authentication factor. I checked the certificate number, and it does not show up in their online database for verification.

I'd like any opinions and thank you in advance. I do not know this person's autographs myself to render an opinion.

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Permalink Reply by Kevin on December 19, 2013 at 12:22am

I'm not sure on the autographs, but just another theory out there.

Winston pretty much locked up the Heisman 3/4 of the way through the season. The seller could have asked for the inscription before he actually won the Heisman.

Just my thoughts.

Kevin

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Permalink Reply by Don Gregerson on December 19, 2013 at 6:24pm

Kevin,

That's an interesting suggestion. I guess my main problem with that would be the fact that a lot of athletes are pretty superstitious and I'm not sure what their willingness would be to put an inscription well in advance of actually winning an award? Does anyone who does more In Person autographs have any experience with this?

I once saw Craig Kimbrel refuse to sign an all star ball for a kid because "he hadn't made the all-star team yet." I think a lot of athletes, especially ones in college wary of the NCAA regulations that are apparently being more stringently observed after the whole "Manziel Issue" last year occurred, might have a problem doing this. I guess that's why I'm bringing this up.

In addition, I don't see the JSA sticker on the football. I really hope someone with more knowledge can shed more light on the situation.

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Permalink Reply by Kevin on December 19, 2013 at 9:07pm

After doing a little digging, I think you may be on to something.

Although, from what I can tell, the signature looks good, the inscription may have been added after the fact so it could gain value.

It seems the ball was signed by Winston, the dealer had it authenticated, and then once he won the Heisman ceremony, the dealer wrote "Heisman 13" on it himself so the ball could gain value.

Both balls have very very neat inscriptions with even spacing and very ledge able writing. I found some other items with legit Winston inscriptions.

They are messy, simply put. There's no way this guy would have gotten a perfectly ledge able inscription at the Heisman ceremony when almost every autograph dealer would have been there scrounging for an autograph.

Attached are some examples of his writing.

Thanks,

Kevin