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Permalink Reply by AC on July 17, 2013 at 1:49pm

James by the time you are finished the robe is going to cost $800. There was one on eBay two weeks ago that went for that and it was authenticated by online.

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Permalink Reply by Rock G III on July 18, 2013 at 5:53am

Thats no good IMO Get your money back before its too late.

As for online authentics be very careful they started this database thing where for $ you send them a picture and the send you a hologram to database your autograph. I have seen some really bad forgeries with this hologram and the scammers sent in a ton of fake ali crap so they could have the oa hologram to deceive buyers. OA does nothing about forgeries in that system. 

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Permalink Reply by John McGinnis on July 19, 2013 at 1:46am

I did not realize this is what was behind Online Authentics. Was their certificate ever an ebay approved coa, or was it just a way for the forgery ring to attach a hologram sticker?

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Permalink Reply by AC on July 19, 2013 at 3:23pm

Rob where did you get the info on OA. Can you list the OA numbers for the items that you are talking about. Just so you are aware you can't just send in a image of the item they have to see the item in person I know that for a fact. Do you know who owns Online?

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on July 19, 2013 at 6:40pm

Most things I've seen with their COA has been junk.

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Permalink Reply by AC on July 19, 2013 at 9:06pm

So you think most think that come from Online Authentics is junk put up some images or links. I really find that type of statement to be crap since only about 5% of the Ali item they have authenticated are sent in and the other 95% they where at the signing session.

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on July 20, 2013 at 3:29am

That's fine. You can believe whatever.

I've saved images with their COA that were junk. I'll dig through my saved files and post you some when I get a second. None of those I have are Ali's. Never shopped for Ali's. the ones I have saved with their COA are with other sigs.

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Permalink Reply by Rock G III on July 19, 2013 at 9:12pm

http://www.onlineauthentics.com/oa/physical.asp?sid=

Thats the service notice no where do they authenticate the item (note they did have an exclusive ali contract but this service gas clouded the waters). I had a list of around 400 items in my old hard drive. Sadly I lost that in the hurricane. But if you insist I am sure with a little digging I can pull you up something. 

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Permalink Reply by AC on July 20, 2013 at 5:36am

With OA I was talking about the Ali's as that is what the thread is about not anything else, I know that you can just send them an image of an item to be authentcated

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Permalink Reply by Rock G III on July 20, 2013 at 7:57am

Which means you can send an Ali and get a hologram and card which then appears authenticated to the buyer if they dont do research and see for $50 they will hologram anything, Its very confusing to a buyer looking for an Ali for cheap.

And what happens if the website closes? That air tight holo that says from Ali Enterprises now is exactly the same as the ones which say phisical review. 

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Permalink Reply by Rock G III on July 20, 2013 at 12:02pm

just searched the OA database thing now I found some fishy Ali autographs. I notice the only difference between legit autographs and the physical review ones is 1 line when you search online it says physical review and that it. So now an unsuspecting buyer hears OA is 100% legit its Alis manager and they buy something. Its not until they realize they bought a item that had a picture taken for $50.00, not authentication nothing, a $50 JPEG

And as I said before if they go offline there is no way to tell the good holograms from the bad ones since they are exactly the same. 

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