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Permalink Reply by DB on October 26, 2012 at 1:30am

Drew, what guy are you speaking of?

as far as Kevin Huard & Yesterdays Legends if we are speaking of that specific one;

http://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/yesterdays-legends-a...

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Permalink Reply by Drew C on October 26, 2012 at 6:04am

My B

http://myworld.ebay.com/sportslegends306?_trksid=p2047675.l2559

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Permalink Reply by DB on October 26, 2012 at 8:04am

sent kevin an inquiry to see why these "still" generic COAs are not signed (at least that I can see in the few I looked at).  Some had spimages as well and they do alot of signings up in the NEAST.  Still had several questions on the Huards COA nonetheless;

e.g. if you look at this one it also has an ACE Vintage Sticker on it.  As you know ACE is banned on EBAY but this seller is not selling the ACE Vintage COA but rather Yesterdays Legends,,,

which raises a number of questions including why ACE especally where essentially an unsigned/generic COA even with a sticker exists on the left side from Yesterdays Legends.;

Certificate Number :	A33120
Service Type:	Vintage
Number of Signatures:	3
Primary Signature :	Bird/Parrish/McHale
Item:	8 x 10 Photograph
Comments:	N/A
Location:	ACE Office
Certification Date:	2010-07-23

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Permalink Reply by DB on October 26, 2012 at 8:16am

then, yet on others you see a real "generic" template but no hologram as the 2nd one depicts.  Always skeptical of a generic template.

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Permalink Reply by Drew C on October 26, 2012 at 10:29am

That's what I mean, they're blank COA's and the ones I found with numbers were hand written which isn't all that much better

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Permalink Reply by Drew C on October 26, 2012 at 2:04pm

Such as how this seller got a stack of unused COA's? :p

At first glance I thought he was using a stock image of the COA, but as I looked, some of the blanks are next to the item or shown with other COA's, and all the COA pics are unique

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Permalink Reply by DB on October 26, 2012 at 2:33pm

that would be one of them...

reminds me of the Tri-Star shows when you can pick up dozens at the show that start with "tri-star" authentic (something like that... maybe I should post a few) and some have actually tried to pass them off with an item as being the "coa".

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Permalink Reply by DB on October 27, 2012 at 4:54am

More to the story - the EBAY Seller has been vouched for by Huard and evidently when the item sells the buyer receives a filled in COA.  Regardless, using blank coas is verboten on EBAY and I don't like the idea of someone sending a seller a batch of blank coas that from what I understand get filled in after the fact.   Thus, who opined on the item to begin with or who observed the celebrity signing the item... too many issues arise with blank coas.  I did notice that there are two types as well - one with referencing a hologram and the other doesn't.

In fairness the seller did pull the ACE certified one of the Celtics by ending it as neither he nor Huard claim they were aware of ACE's banishment.   I'm advised and thus pass along new postings will have completed COAs.

Frankly, I'm not sure what my position is on this but I don't like what the arrangement seems to be with the handling & issuing of these COAs.

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Permalink Reply by DB on November 2, 2012 at 5:36am

All the items with a blank Yesterdays Legends coa that was being used were removed.  However, it appears a few of them have reappeard with the seller's COA.  An example of that COA;

 

thus, it seems odd that if the seller was representing the item as coming from Yesterdays Legends but they now reappear with the seller's coa doesn't bode well from my viewpoint. 

2ndly, two of the Tim Thomas ones were represented as having JSA WPP (witness protction program) which are in the presence oriented.  One wasn't in the JSA Certs and the other was but had no reference to the signing which the WTPs that I'm aware of typically have.   These may be ok & the JSA cert file out of sync.  Either way it's sloppy.

others with TPA COAs check out

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