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PSA deemed an autograph signed in person as fake
Hi, I recently sent in a signed copy of the 1st Harry Potter book to PSA to get a LOA. The autograph was signed in person, and as far as I can tell, looks exactly like other authentic JK Rowling signatures I've seen. I have no idea why they didn't authenticate it, but they were happy to take my money.
I know 100% it's authentic since I had it signed in person (i also have a ticket from the event), and now I'm out $100ish and have no LOA, which I only want in case I decide to sell it later on. Is there anything I can do? Any way to get a refund? I called customer service - they were no help and said I couldn't talk to the person who review it.
thanks
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Permalink Reply by George Karr on
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Try to sell it here on this forum for the price you want- there are many collectors who would be interested in it without any COA. And we can discuss it, if someone will think it's not genuine. Here's a funny raccoon- don't be upset.
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Permalink Reply by Dan Gregory on
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Do you feed your raccoon Friskies?
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Although frustrating this is not uncommon and PSA only give an opinion though an expensive one in this case. Enjoy the item and it will appreciate in value in time and then sell it here
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Love the raccoon! Not selling it at the moment, but if and when I do, I'll undoubtedly take a hit for not having a COA, which really stinks. I just wish they'd let me talk to the person who examined it, rather than the rude, non-helpful customer service rep.
Anybody on here have any idea of how I might about contacting the examiner?
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Permalink Reply by Josh Board on
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I am going to tell you why what you did is either a made up story ... or is the weirdest thing I've ever heard of a person doing in this hobby.
Because...YOU got it signed in person. YOU got a ticket from the event. What the heck else do you need?!?!?!
Isn't collecting about what YOU want in YOUR collection? You got a nice item. Cool beans.
Now, if as you state...you want PROOF in case you sell it in the future or whatever....guess what???? YOU GOT IT!!! In the form of (drum roll please)....THE ACTUAL TICKET FROM THE EVENT!!!!!!!!!
What am I missing here? Now...if the "future" buyer of said autograph, isn't satisfied with the ticket from the event, photos (which you may have), and a book signed, that looks like ALL OTHER examples of authors signature....well, that person is a fool.
If YOU paid $100 for a cert....when you had all those other items and no it's real...that's foolish and a big waste of money. Either they don't agree...and you have a situation like you have now. OR....they do agree, and...well, a big portion of the population doesn't believe or care about certs of authenticity anyway (because of others that have been burned, etc). So....it was foolish to even pay in the first place.
On top of that...and I'm going to use this example YET AGAIN....Roger Epperson, the most respected music authenticator in the business, got a Mick Jagger signature on a guitar, that looks like a 5-year-old wrote it. NOW.....what company in the world, would look at that signature and say "Yep. That's real!" Probably a few, but not many. Yet we know it's real. See how things can go with "experts"? They are human.
So people, all of this comes down to one simple thing -- USE COMMON SENSE!!!!
Paying $100 for a cert, because that might add value in 20 years, is a bad investment. In 20 years, what if JK Rowlings (or whatever that authors name is)...starts doing autograph signings for charity and a number of other functions, and she charges $5 an item. Well....then your book is no longer even valuable...and you spent $100 for a cert.
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no, it is not a made up story. I can post the book and ticket if you'd like.
if I were to post this for sale, say, on eBay, I think more people would be willing to buy it if there was a COA from a reputable authenticator.
If I wanted to, I could easily make a photocopy of the ticket... there's no hologram or anything on it that would prevent it from being copied. If I were purchasing one myself on ebay, I wouldn't buy one that didn't have a legitimate COA. They sell for too much money to risk it.
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and I really don't think it's "foolish" to try to get a PSA COA. Many people, even on this forum, have sent in items they know to be authentic for COA's, as it adds value to the item. an authentic Rowling signature, could sell for up to a couple thousand dollars. I personally wouldnt buy one without a COA.
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exactly. which is why I'm bummed that PSA got this one wrong.
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Permalink Reply by Mark Roberts on
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Very true!
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Permalink Reply by Tyler Johnson on
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If the ticket must be surrendered at the door then how do you still have it??
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He is telling the truth. I fight with ppl everyday because ALL THEY care about is that piece of Dam paper! "Ill buy it but I have to see the LOA" is what I get everyday.
Look I agree having the cert makes it much easier to sell and sell for more. SO if your main goal is to sell and sell for profit then I do not think the industry has left us with any options. If you want to make money and sell it fast for maximum value you have to have it certed by JSA or PSA hands down (unless its steiner, UDA, etc.)
If you are certing it just to cert it for years later maybe you might sell it then.... THen yes its a waste right now. Post it and maybe the right person comes along. If they dont in those 10 years then cert it and go on.
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