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Permalink Reply by John Spillane on December 22, 2019 at 8:52am

I do not like it.

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Permalink Reply by John Spillane on December 22, 2019 at 11:04am

I'm looking at this again. I didn't notice the sticker on top of the ball. Green diamond possibly? What I'm guessing anyway. That was Ted's or even his son's authentication company. ITguy? What makes you think it's legit? To me, there's no flow to the auto. The letters are spread too far apart. The autograph looks to be very slowly done. I still don't like it.

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Permalink Reply by ITguy1984 on December 22, 2019 at 11:39am

I know that Williams had trouble signing baseballs in the 90s. So that could be why it looks slow.

and yes it’s, green diamond. And the auto has some characteristics that look good to me. But I also know his son was known to try his hand at forging his fathers signature and put a green diamond holo on it. The D and elements in Williams look shaky to me. So I always take a green diamond hologram as a positive, but always want another sticker from JSA, Beckett,

or PSA beside. Hence why I posted it here. The fact that it has a green diamond cert means most likely it’s legit, but it’s not 100%

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Permalink Reply by John Spillane on December 22, 2019 at 12:03pm

Look at this one. Green Diamond Hologram. A stark contrast in the autograph I know.

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Permalink Reply by John Spillane on December 22, 2019 at 3:04pm

Exactly. Not liking it and actually thinking it's a forgery are two different things.

Ask them to show you the certificate.

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Permalink Reply by ITguy1984 on December 22, 2019 at 11:41am

I also sent it to BAS for a quick opinion

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Permalink Reply by Michael Brown on December 22, 2019 at 11:52am

IMO - it’s real..  

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Permalink Reply by John Spillane on December 22, 2019 at 3:02pm

I'm curious Michael!  Why do you think the Williams is real?

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Permalink Reply by Michael Brown on December 22, 2019 at 6:20pm

Funny.  For the exact reason Mr. Zarelli stated,  the baseline and flow of signature. Teds signature had a straight forward baseline..just my opinion.  

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Permalink Reply by John Spillane on December 23, 2019 at 4:39am

He said he didn't like it. 

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Permalink Reply by Michael Brown on December 23, 2019 at 10:52am

I think it’s authentic for the reasons Mr. Zarelli believes make the item not authentic.  Anyway it’s just my .02.. happy holidays..

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Permalink Reply by John Spillane on December 25, 2019 at 5:37am

I posted this a couple of years ago. Looks like a forgery in the same hand.

But yes, that's your opinion and I respect it. We're here to share, and to learn from each other.

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