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What is up with Substance Collectables - Milton Luban

Jason had started a thread; http://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/what-is-exact-proof-...  

and like all good threads there are discussions witin discussions but this sub-discussion came up on a dealer Milton Lubin & http://www.substancecollectables.com/boxing_hall_of_fame___1

It appears that in 2003 although the Lubans were properly served but they failed to answer the complaint.

DECISION AND ORDER
MARRERO, District Judge.
By order dated July 22, 2003, the Court authorized entry of a default judgment in favor of plaintiffs Tiffany (NJ) Inc. and Tiffany and Company (collectively, "Tiffany") and against defendants Milton and Connie Luban and their company Luban Incorp. (collectively, the "Lubans"), the proprietors of an internet site selling counterfeit Tiffany merchandise in violation of the Lanham Act, 15 U.S.C. §§ 1114(1), 1116(d). Upon consideration of Tiffany's written and oral evidence as to its damages, the Court awards Tiffany a judgment in the amount of $573,818.64.

 

Jason went on further in one comment;

This link is the link with the guy and the actual photo we have on files one doctored that has the guy mentioned above.

http://bertorelli.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/rocky%c2%b4s-boxing-glov...

On 17 May 2012 the guys who were building a file heard the following news : He received a letter from the lawyers of Prince Marketing and Super Star Greetings today. Telling him to remove all items and images of Joe Frazier, Micky Ward, Roy Jones Jr, Hulk Hogan, Chuck Zito, Vinnie Paz and the Super Star Greetings logo. This guy is total scum and is getting what he deserves.

The most famous website in the world for tackling fakes did a special on him here you can read it for your selfs. click the link.

I wont pu the photos yet I will leave them as aces in our hands till we have too but I believe there is enough here to make your minds up if this is true or not.

http://www.isitreal.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=7...

 

Recently I received some photos that appear to have been photoshopped and were alleged to be used by Milton Lubin to promote his product offerings.  The one on the left is what has been alledged as the real one while the one on the right has been alledged as fake ones that were used as "proof" pictures.

One recent excerpt from Jason;

Ps yes DB strange here seems no one in America cares about what s going on in their door step and on of this forums own.    (sometimes Jason - it takes some extra cycles ;-)

Since I have no dogs in this fight and Milton Lubin is an AML member here as was pointed out in the intial thread above, it would be pertinent to have some feedback on these claims and allegations.

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Permalink Reply by AC on June 6, 2016 at 3:06am
scan 1
 
Photo of Muhammad Ali with  Celebrityautogaphs.com watermark on it in light print;
the senior authenticator placed SubstanceCollectables.com  watermark on it as if it was his photo.
 
 
Scans 3 and 3
 
Associated Press photo of Muhammad Ali
 
Scan 4
 
 Associated Press photo of Muhammad Ali used by senior authenticator for Substance Collectables website.
 
Scan 5
 
image related to auction  from May 21, 2007 of Muhammad Ali signed boxing  glove with cos Substance
Collectables.
 
Scan 6
 
The image of Muhammad Ali collection used for that auction was taken from Steiners Sports Marketing website
 
Scan 7
 
The design of the Substance Collectables coa  for that auction was taken from Global Authentic.
Permalink Reply by AC on June 6, 2016 at 3:09am
 
Image on Substance Collectables web site in 2015  
 
Scan 2
 
The  photo was taken by  Chris Farina/Top Rank.
 
Scan 3
 
 Image on Substance Collectables web site in 2015. The photo was taken by Ester Lin/Showtime.
 
Scan 4
 
Image on Substance Collectables web site in 2015  
 
Scans 5-6
 
The photo was taken by Will Hart.
Permalink Reply by AC on June 6, 2016 at 3:10am
seller fizwig listed 112017916369 Muhammad Ali over Liston signed photo. It was from the
stock of the senior authenticator, it has coa Substance Collectables, and accordingly it
was removed June 5, 2016.
Permalink Reply by AC on June 8, 2016 at 3:24am
Scans 1 and 2
 
randys2051 listed on 172232791716 Muhammad  Ali  signed glove and trunks. The trunks were from the stock of the
senior authenticator, they had coa Substance Collectables, and accordingly it was removed June 7, 2016.
Permalink Reply by AC on June 14, 2016 at 4:01am
 
Scan 1
 
Guzman gloves forum
 
Scan 2
 
image of Rachelle Leah UFC
 
Scan 3
 
image of Rachelle Leah UFC with graphics/text added by senior authenticator used  to promote Substance Collectables in 2015
 
Scan 4
 
senior authenticator Muhammad Ali memorabilia video using image of Steve Jackson
 
Scan 5
 
the image was taken from Alico website.
Permalink Reply by AC on June 22, 2016 at 3:12am
can 1
 
a proof shot of Muhammad Ali from one of his signing sessions in which the senior authenticator
placed the Substance Collectables watermark on it ,  as if it was his photo, and used it on one of his blogs, to
promote his website. The senior authenticator never had a signing with Muhammad Ali.

Scan 2
 
Sugar Ray Leonard signed boxing for sale Substance Collectables  web site,
 
Scan 3
 
The proof shot is a Getty Images photo.
 
Scan 4
 
Sugar Ray Leonard signed glove PSA/DNA
 
Scan 5
 
Sugar Ray Leonard signed glove Substance Collectables  posted alongside PSA/DNA
Permalink Reply by AC on June 22, 2016 at 3:14am
squareringmemorabilia had listed 182176392695, Muhammad Ali signed boxing glove, it was from
the stock of the senior authenticator, it came from Substance Collectables, and accordingly it was removed
June 20, 2016.
Permalink Reply by AC on July 9, 2016 at 1:17am
Scan 1
 
photo of Joe Frazier  signing boxing glove from Review Journal
 
Scan 2
 
Review Journal Joe Frazier photo used by senior authenticator to promote
Substance Collectables web site.
 
Scan 3
 
photo of Joe Frazier and family taken by La Shinda Clark of Philadelphia Inquirer.
 
Scan 4
 
The senior authenticator copied the copyrighted  photo and used it on his web site.
 
Scan 5
 
Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali photo taken by Walter Looss for Sports Illustrated
 
Scan 6
 
The senior authenticator copied the copyrighted  photo and used it on his web site.
Permalink Reply by AC on July 9, 2016 at 1:19am
Scans 1-3
 
f1mikol  listed 152145613148, Muhammad Ali signed boxing glove. It was from the stock of
the senior authenticator, it has coa Substance Collectabes, an accordingly it was removed on
June 27, 2016. The proof shot belongs  to Stacks of Plaques, not Substance Collectables.
Permalink Reply by AC on July 9, 2016 at 1:21am
Scans 1, 2, and 3
 
 seller all_stars_int listed Muhammad Ali signed and framed glove on 252417475064 , he had a quantity of three, they were from the
stock of the senior authenticator, they had coa Substance Collectables, and accordingly it was removed June 8, 2016.
 
Scan 4
 
seller universal-autographs listed Muhammad Ali signed boxing glove on 122005651727, he had a quantity two,  they were from
the stock of the senior authenticator, they came from Substance Collectables, and accordingly it was removed June 13, 2016.
 
Scan 5
 
proof shot from an auction in 2014, for a different Ali glove, from a different seller
 
Scan 6
 
universal-autographs copied that proof shot, cropped it so it might not be recognized, placed his watermark on it as if
it was his photo, and used it in auction 122005651727
 
 
Permalink Reply by AC on July 11, 2016 at 4:10am
Scan 1
 
sweetcherubbaby listed Muhammad Ali signed and framed boxing glove on auctions 112021921878
and 112051499920. It was from the stock of the senior authenticator, it had coa Substance Collectables,
and accordingly  was removed on July 9, 2016.
Look Familiar????
Permalink Reply by AC on July 9, 2016 at 1:22am
Scan 1
 
all_stars_int  relisted the Muhammad Ali signed and framed glove that came the stock of the senior
authenticator they had coa Substance Collectables that had been removed on 252417475064
 on June 8, 2016. He relisted it on 262502456026 which was removed June 29, 2016.

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