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Permalink Reply by Isaac Levin on August 14, 2012 at 6:21pm

Can you give me some more info about that?

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Permalink Reply by Monty on August 14, 2012 at 6:30pm

If you got them yourself your word is enough.  If someone doesn't believe you then they can take a walk. I wouldn't spend the money.

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Permalink Reply by Bill Panagopulos on August 15, 2012 at 10:34am

Isaac - 

I was being facetious, likely because I had just seen the eBay listing below which reaffirms my belief that PSA rubber-stamps approvals for certain customers. 

The dealer "guarantees" an (IMO) obviously bogus Obama signed baseball will pass a PSA examination...but only if the SELLER sends it to PSA!!!

Seller writes: 

"All of the items I have purchased from this former staff member have passed PSA/DNA (see the jersey in my eBay store), and this ball will too...If you want the PSA/DNA Guarantee, you must pay an addition $125.00 so I can submit the item directly for you and then have it shipped from PSA/DNA to you.  I will not ship it to you and then let you submit it..."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Signed-President-BARACK-OBAMA-Auto-ML-Baseb...

And you naysayers out there...please don't tell me the seller does this to "protect the integrity" of the ball or avoid a "switching-out" of baseballs because that won't hold water. The seller has photos, and PSA photographs items upon receipt.

Stinks on ice. 

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Permalink Reply by Isaac Levin on August 15, 2012 at 10:41am

I don't really get that though, how is him sending a ball to PSA any different than me doing it? Is there some old boys club i need to join to get everything certified :)

Or it might be that he has 2 of them, one real, one fake and will send the real one to PSA if his hand is forced, otherwise, he will just sell the forgery.

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Permalink Reply by Bill Panagopulos on August 15, 2012 at 2:41pm

Isaac -

Skeptics like me believe that in addition to being very often wrong on many of their calls, these third party authenticators generally approve just about everything submitted to them by their repeat dealer customers. Are they overworked? Am I the one who's wrong on the call?

Here's a case in point, discussed elsewhere on this site - absolutely the worst "Obama" signed baseball I've ever seen, authenticated by Jim Spence for an eBay seller whose past sales show almost exclusively items with Spence or PSA certificates:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PRESIDENT-BARACK-OBAMA-SIGNED-2008-MAJOR-LE...

IMO this is the worst dog I've ever seen him pass. 

Could there be some kind of "arrangement" or "understanding"? I hope not. 

Save your money, put your baseballs in the closet, or give them to Richard Simon for his opinion. There's too much controversy with these other scalawags. 

 

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