"The Paul in the OP looks like the Paul in a set that Tracks didn't want to buy from me. My first "Beatles" set, bought around 2000 for GBP 1,300 including premiums, and much treasured for around ten years. Now just a reminder to be…"
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The Beatles NY Arrival on Pan Am
Started this discussion. Last reply by a pug called eva Aug 12, 2024. 22 Replies 0 Likes
I have a photograph that appears to show the four Beatles after they deplaned from the Pan Am flight from London to NY in 1965 and which appears to bear the signatures of all four. It’s a glossy 8x10…Continue
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"Definitely Mel."
"Mystery solved. I must admit the signatures in the OP look almost too good to be signed by Mal the exception being John’s signature. I’ve been thinking how many photographs would be in a “stack”?"
"It’s looking like the signatures are in the hand of their road manager Mal Evans."
"Here’s a 45 that was given to a hostess on the flight that appears to have been signed by the same secretarial signer."
"Here they are arriving at JFK Airport:"
"the Paul looks like it was copied from their 1964 Beatles B&W card set"
"the basis is that they look nothing like known authentic examples from the
64-'65 era, or any era for that matter. They are not even close"
"A plausible scenario could have been the purser was given a stack of pre signed 1964 photos to give away to fans. Perhaps only 1 was pre signed. It would be interesting to know if the other photos the purser gave away in his…"
"If you believe that your photo shows the 1965 flight then the story about the purser getting it signed on that flight falls apart. "
"As JK says, it is pretty clear that the "signed" photo would have had to have been from an earlier trip. I can't really see enough of the autographs to say for sure whether they are OK or not but the parts I can see (e.g.…"
"If the purser had the memorable signed on the 1965 flight then the photo would have to be from an earlier flight. Presumably the details on the back are the flight he was on.
No idea on the signatures. I'll defer to others on…"
"They aren’t consistent with their authentic signatures with regard to shape and letter formation. I was wondering if they could possibly be Fan Club secretarials, but I’m not sure about that."
"The date on the newspaper photo is August 1965. However it may in fact be referring to the Beatles arrival in 1964 one year earlier. The caption under the photo does not indicate the photo was taken in 1965"
"I’m pretty sure your photo shows a TWA staircase not the plane. The photo you have definitely looks like it’s from 1964. I doubt the Beatles changed their clothes on the plane from what they were wearing at Heathrow…"
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