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Tom Tresh busts Pawn Stars:

They buy a Lou Gehrig "signed" jersey for $3,000--and it's the only one known! If it were real it could bring 6-figures.

Comment by Markus Brandes on March 18, 2010 at 12:12am
Tom...I love your videos which are not only great alert but also good education for the autograph community. Keep on the great work and maybe you like to start or finish your reports with "If it looks to be good to be true it probably is" or advise that collector's first should think their requested collectible is a forgery and get the proof from the opposite. It save much "learning money" as to think it maybe is authentic but there is a chance that it could be a forgery... I hope I could explain in my bad english.
kind regards
Markus Brandes

www.isitreal.com
Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Community Manager on March 18, 2010 at 12:34am
The jersey is for sale for $7995.00 on the Web site of the guy they bought it from, www.xtremecollectibles.com. You'll also find 5 band-signed Beatles albums and more. How'd they get all those--and why are they selling them for $15,000 or less?

All sales are final and, of course, they pimp forensic document examiners Christopher Morales and AAC/Drew Max.

Hmmm...
Comment by Josh Board on March 18, 2010 at 1:10am
Nice video. I dig the passion. What's confusing for me is...that show (the 5 episodes I've seen), they ALWAYS bring in an expert to examine items. They did it with an old watch, a gun from the Civil War...and a blanket with a bunch of autographs that were stitched over (I think our magazine did a story on that quilt, but can't remember now). So, why no expert on this piece?
Again, "reality shows" aren't always real.

Remember, Antique Roadshow got into trouble about 6 years ago, for faking some rare item. Yet, people still continued to watch. That baffled me, because you have to assume that...any item someone brings in, could either be staged, since show producers realize...if they just air a bunch of people bringing in crap from their attic, nobody will really care. But, you occasionally have a Civil War item, a Picasso, etc...well, that's a show for ya.
Comment by Scott Voisin on March 18, 2010 at 1:42am
I watched the episode of "Pawn Stars" in question, and while I'm by no means an expert in vintage sports autographs, my first thought was: If this guy thought he owned a REAL signed Gehrig jersey, why take it to a pawn shop in Vegas instead of a major auction house?

And, as Josh pointed out, the guys in the shop always seem to bring in experts on EVERYTHING that comes in that may be of historical significance. I've seen them question a small piece of metal that may or may not have been made 200 years ago, but they let this jersey slide based on a C.O.A.? That's pretty weak... Reality shows are only as real as what they show you. The truth can easily be edited out.

What I REALLY find interesting is the guy who sold the jersey. On his website, he hypes his appearance on the show selling the jersey. And if you scroll down a little bit, he's offering the same jersey for sale. There's no explanation of HOW he got the jersey back in his possession, but that's probably a minor detail that hit the cutting room floor.
Comment by Chuck Steeves on March 18, 2010 at 2:20am
hey tom i watch that show all and the way rick makes such a big deal about getting stuff verified and for you to bust him out is funny. whats funny i was in vegas 6 weeks ago and went by the place and never was there a single car in the lot everytime i drove by.and the area is a ghetto thats why they show a funny angle from across the street. good job tom
Comment by legendary signatures inc on March 18, 2010 at 2:35am
GOOD INFO....APPRECIATE IT GREATLY...
Comment by Christopher Williams on March 18, 2010 at 4:48am
It's up to all of us to let these guys know that us collectors are watching them.
Comment by kevin conway on March 18, 2010 at 6:12am
I saw that episode. If you just consider the seller's behavior (i..e go from $10,000 to $3,000) a "red flag" should go up.
Last month the Pawn Shop had a guy come in with a George Washington signature certificate. My friends and cousin were watching with me and I was convinced it was a forgery. The expert Rick had come in was a self-proclaimed “historical” expert, NOT an autograph expert. As a matter of fact he was the same guy Rick brought in to authenticate another historical artifact on the same show, like a “jack of all trades”. This “expert” concludes that the Washington was “absolutely authentic”. I was dumbfounded. The only conclusion I could come to was that this “expert” was NOT an autograph expert by any stretch of the imagination.

Kevin Conway

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Comment by Mike Miller on March 18, 2010 at 6:34am
GOOD GRIEF !! If there was ever a question about this guy (or Chris Morales HIGHLY questionable activity) , here is just ONE of several examples on his site. Laughable!!

http://www.xtremecollectibles.com/frank-sinatra-signed-8x10-studio-...
Comment by Ron Papesh on March 18, 2010 at 7:29am
Great job Coach!!! I watched that episode of "Pawn Stars" when it first aired and was very skeptical of the sale. I thought that either the guy who sold the jersey was ripped off due to the low price the jersey sold for or "Big Hoss" took advantage of the potential seller. All in all everything seemed to be nothing but a "crock"!

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