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Are IPhone 7 Autographs Considered Real Autographs?

Are IPhone 7 Autographs Considered Real Autographs????

I recently seen a person get an autograph from NHRA legend John Force at The World Of Wheels in Chicago. He had John sign a photo of them that he just taken of both them together on his IPhone. John didn't know how to sign it, but the guy explained how easy it was to sign. Afterward I ask him how to do it.

He explained, all you do is choose a photo in your photo library. Tape on where you see 3 small lines that has circles on them. Next, Tape on the circle that has 3 dots in it, Tape on the tool box that says "Markup" underneath. Now you can set what color and the width of the autograph that you what on your photo.

So, a couple of days ago, I met The Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan and I asked her to sign the IPhone photo that I had of us when I met her a few months pier. The nice person that she is, she was glad to sign with the soft rubber tipped pen that I gave her. I think wanted to sign because she admitted to me that she had never seen that done before.

Not 5 minutes later, I met The Illinois Governor Bruce Rauner, I asked him to do the same, and he was pleased to sign. He to admitted he never seen this before. I think both photos came out rather nice!!!!!

But my question is, in the real world of collecting autographs, Is this considered a real autograph?

I myself am a Picture Proof Photo Autograph collector (Autographs that I take a picture of the person signing the item). I have heard from many collectors that have impressed to me that they don't need to take a photo of the celebrity signing for authenticity because the autograph they received would be going in their own collection which they will never sell it. The only reason I don't take a photo of a person signing an autograph is when that person is signing a photo that I have taken of us together pier to meeting him again and I would not be selling it in the future either. Who would buy it???

I personally like it and can see the possibilities of the IPhone autographs becoming popular because now you can meet a celebrity, take a selfie with him, and now have him autograph it.

Or you can go to an sports event with many photos on your phone of all the stars that will be there, and now you don't even have to carry a big notebook of photos. You don't even have to carry a pen. You can just have them sign with their finger!!!! (but then authenticators would now have to know the loops and hoops of an hand written and an finger written autograph)

And what would be the difference of selling/buying an mail in autograph from an IPhone autograph? People sell reprints of autographs all the time.

I would like to hear you thoughts of The IPhone autographs!!!!

Thank You Very Much!!!!!

FRED (Picture Proof Autographs)

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Permalink Reply by Rich on May 8, 2017 at 1:38pm

Crowd was large, he was talking to the celeb, didn't want to be rude, didn't have enough time to prep camera, was getting multiple things signed, etc. List goes on.

You might want to note that the very type of item you're inquiring about doesn't come with picture proof.

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Permalink Reply by PICTURE PROOF AUTOGRAPHS on May 8, 2017 at 1:44pm

I thought I did when I said I was a Picture Proof Autograph collector and the only items I get signed without proof are photos that I have already taken with that celebirty

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Permalink Reply by Rich on May 8, 2017 at 1:48pm

Okay, I guess I missed that.

Permalink Reply by PICTURE PROOF AUTOGRAPHS on May 8, 2017 at 1:03pm

I also thought that no one would autograph on an IPhone because who ever was signing might think that you (the one asking for the autograph) might be somehow capturing their autograph to be used in a scam on something else other than the photo your asking them to sign. But that didn't happen, at least not yet.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on May 8, 2017 at 2:03pm

I'm not sure why it would. Facsimiles have been around forever in other formats, and they look closer to realistic than "digital signatures."

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 8, 2017 at 2:18pm

The "digital signature" is quite some distance removed from "hand signed", as Mr. Steffman illustrates. Literally, no texture now. I do not look forward to "augmented reality" as I have my hands full with "alternative reality" right now. This, and the idea that "photo proof" is the only "real proof" do the hobby, especially newer collectors a disservice perhaps. The latter does not foster the learning of the skills needed to identify live ink, to separate preprint, reprint, forgeries etc. Just the reliance on a photo. And, so many on eBay show "photo proof" that shows nothing other than a celeb possibly signing a copy of the item for sale - rarely do you actually see the item signed/offered - but this gets accepted anyway. This is a problem, this reliance on photographs. Not unlike relying solely on a sticker.

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Permalink Reply by PICTURE PROOF AUTOGRAPHS on May 8, 2017 at 2:53pm

I agree not all picture proof autographs sold on Ebay are authentic, but if you can forge 100 autographs that have a P.P.P., then you can forge 1000 or more of the same autograph without a P.P.P..

Like it has been stated, the buyer should be smart enough to pick out the forgery before buying, But how about the wife that wants to buy her husband a autograph present and finds she has been taken. The average person shouldn't have to be a export to buy an autograph and that is what the Picture Proof Photo does, it Helps give the buyer another option to look at the photo to make sure everything in the photo is right before buying.

Its just that dealers and sellers are set in there old ways of not supplying proof because they know there is a sucker born every minute in this business

I personally would not trust to buy an autograph that was not suppled with an Picture Proof Photo

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Permalink Reply by Rich on May 8, 2017 at 3:03pm

You seem to keep offering this premise that photo proof is really easy and is only avoided by forgers, scam artists and lazy people. That is way off.

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Permalink Reply by Mr. Steffman on May 8, 2017 at 3:48pm

Proof usually requires a compromise in quantity or tough to be an octopus in general.

I like video shades as the best option that I'd recommend, but personally I've always kept a video camera in 1 hand and the item in the other.

Over 5,000 signing videos in my archive now. Exact video proof is the only proof that's bulletproof. Showing the exact signature while it's being signed is truly awesome proof.

Really looking forward to getting 360 consistently in the future. Best of the best. Look down, look up, and you can re-live the experience with a VR headset, too.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on May 8, 2017 at 3:52pm

Video proof is pretty compelling when the quality is high. I assume it's complicated to get unless you have someone working with you or are in a controlled environment.

A lot of the video and photo "proof" I see, even when honest and legit, is more like evidence at best. Fun to look at though. As I said in my blog, I like videoing the experience when it's possible and not awkward.

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Permalink Reply by Mr. Steffman on May 8, 2017 at 4:07pm

I've been using the Pivothead video shades (www.pivothead.com) since they were first released and I've recommended them to a handful of friends who are now wearing them regularly also. They're cool because you can still have 2 hands free, plus the quality is HD (unless the light is bad/night time.) * Another benefit is no one realizes you're even filming anything.

Check out this example that my friend with his Pivothead a few days ago and elt me share it on my YT here: https://youtu.be/WkuDFq2-Qjw