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Morrison real or fake?

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Permalink Reply by Jared on June 26, 2017 at 7:28pm

This Morrison came from an impeccable record producer source from California. We (Autographs-for-sale) chose not to include the original LOP as we typically don't use them. We trust Roger on this and have choose to represent it for that reason. As it's a slower version, it was apparently signed at the Whisky-A-Go-Go in the backroom after/during quite the party. For those reasons we stand behind this product. As many of you know not all autographs are done with regularity & that's what causes headaches in the hobby.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on June 26, 2017 at 8:03pm

It has the Whiskey a go go written on it. The fellow who was asking jack to buy his cheque, this would be a good one for him.
The original lop, is a piece of the history collectors like to know these days. Im glad it's fine and i always find morrison difficult.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on June 26, 2017 at 9:47pm

Jared, you got it from a record producer in CA with his letter of provenance?

The description matches an eBay listing from Sun City, AZ in February, that says the letter of provenance is from a beer distributor. There are no images, though:

JIM MORRISON Autograph
Signed at the Whisky a Go-Go in 1966

Jim Morrison and The Doors got their start as the house band at The Whisky a Go Go on May 23, 1966. But were fired on August 18, 1966 when they perform "The End" and Jim improvises the Oedipal section into it for the first time, inserting lyrics about his mother and father. Everyone in attendance at the Whisky that night were mesmerized by the performance, everyone except Phil Tanzini, who tried to fire the guys on the spot. Quick thinking Robbie reminded Phil that if he fired them he wouldn't have an opening band for the rest of the week. So Phil let them play the rest of the week and "officially" fired them on Sunday August 21, 1966.

Since The Doors career was short (1966 - 1971), there are very few Jim Morrison autographs in existence today. As far as I know this is the ONLY autograph that Jim signed at the Whisky which makes this extremely rare. The words "Wisk A Go Go LA" handwritten at the top was there when I obtained it. It could have been written by the original owner years before; or it could have been part of an invoice or receiving slip the person had on their possession at the time of signing. I just don't know. I preserved this in its original form -- ripped and messy looking -- a little like Jim Morrison every time he took the stage.

The handwritten note accompanied with the autograph was written by the person who obtained it -- a beer distributor who just happened to be there at the right time. I suppose in a perfect world that little "letter of provenance" would also be neatly typed with perfect margins and loaded with lots of superfluous words. But I think Jim Morrison would dig it just the way it is.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on June 26, 2017 at 10:14pm

Steve are you calling this one a fake , possibly?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on June 26, 2017 at 10:49pm

Paul, I'm not calling it fake. I don't know, but I'm not comfortable with it. Roger, Ballroom and Jack know Morrison far better than me, though.

If it was originally offered in Sun City in February with a letter of provenance from a beer distributor who claimed to have gotten it signed, and then Jared bought it from a record producer in California, with his letter of provenance saying he got it signed, that would concern me, too. But I don't know when Jared bought it.

I think it's one of those autographs that deserves careful study and analysis.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on June 26, 2017 at 10:53pm

Lets hear what Jared has to say.

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Permalink Reply by Jared on June 27, 2017 at 7:40am

You're correct with the Beer distributor I believe. I was going purely off memory, which when you handle as many items as I do isn't the best. The background was very strong as we spoke with him for quite awhile regarding the item as my father (Jeff) has been collecting Morrison for about 30 years and is very much a stickler on his autograph.

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Permalink Reply by Chad B on June 27, 2017 at 7:37pm

I'm not necessarily calling it fake either but am not a big fan of it. I don't like the look or feel of it. That is not a technical review of the signature of course but plays a part in any purchase I make.

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Permalink Reply by Adam Halloran on June 27, 2017 at 3:23am

Why not include the lOP?? ...Even if a LOP can be faked, it at least can give the buyer an understanding. It frustrates me hearing how companies just toss that aside.

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Permalink Reply by Jared on June 27, 2017 at 7:46am

I do this because I feel like sometimes the LOP become excessive and I have dealt with so many people of foolery that it's essentially one less piece of paper to take account for. I know that's not the answer people want to hear, but if something is purchased direct from the recipient and is linked to them I will include it. For instance, we have a Notorious BIG photo that was signed for a prison guard following his booking in Camden NJ. This was obtained directly from the family & with him being so rare, we included it.