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1950's Elvis Presley autograph authentic??

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Permalink Reply by Vera K.67 on July 2, 2017 at 7:33pm

"The same seller sold both Hendrix signatures and one received a Quick Opinion of "likely not genuine" and the other was authenticated? Both appear to be from the same hand. I can't see anything that would differentiate the first example in such a way that only it should be considered authentic" - answer: to be honest I don't know how it's happened. This is question we should ask to authentication companies (it's their work).

"Why end an auction early at such a low price when you can let it conclude and possibly receive a higher price?" - answer: It's happened only few times, as I said, because buyer offered his price. For example. I sell something with starting bid $100, the buyer say that he want it and ready to pay now $500. I say "OK we close at $100 and then you'll send other money directly throught PayPal". Buyers accept it. And that's all. Sometimes buyer doesn't accept it.

"Do you know why your latest Elvis signature and also the James Dean signature disappeared?" - Yes, I know. It's a rules of eBay. We didn't indicated "100% authentic or money back". + Now eBay want that every single autograph must have a LOA (OK, will be, just need time) OR you must indicate that "100% authentic or money back". I just forgot to indicate (It's just formality). In fact it doesn't matter because client always right and client on eBay have a nice protection. eBay always can block seller's money in PayPal and give it to buyer (if there any reason).

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on July 2, 2017 at 8:15pm

So you're saying the Elvis sold for more than $315? You ended the auction early in order to accept a higher price and receive the difference via PayPal?

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Permalink Reply by Vera K.67 on July 2, 2017 at 9:50pm

No, Elvis' autograph was sold for $315. Look again at the condition. This is transaction was without "difference via PayPal". No one wanted this signature because condition was so terrible. Do you will pay more for this terrible condition? I don't believe.

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on July 3, 2017 at 10:54am

If someone purchased it at $315, it's certainly possible that someone else would have purchased it at $320, or $325, etc. When you end an auction early at a low price, you aren't giving other potential buyers a chance, and therefore possibly losing additional profit. I asked why you would do this and you replied that buyers sometimes offer a higher price to end the auction early. I then asked if the Elvis was ended early in order to sell it at a higher price and you said no - it was sold at the opening bid.

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Permalink Reply by Vera K.67 on July 3, 2017 at 11:17am

Ok sorry, maybe I'm little bit misunderstood your question.

This Elvis' autograph was sold for $315 because it was in listing very long time and nobody made a bid. Then I understood that condition is terrible and 300 bucks it's a nice price (I remember I was offered $200, even $100 haha). First time it was placed with starting bid about $500 or $550...

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Permalink Reply by Vera K.67 on July 2, 2017 at 10:17pm

I did it not too often and only a few times.

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on July 2, 2017 at 9:43pm

What it says is that the seller is allowed to state "100% authentic or your money back", but is not required to do so. This isn't a reason why eBay would pull a listing.

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Permalink Reply by Vera K.67 on July 2, 2017 at 10:13pm

When listing were deleted eBay sent message with notification. But they didn't explain all things, just wrote: "The listing that was removed appeared to violate eBay policy". I've sent screenshot with policty of eBay (that's how I explain this). Or you believe that in eBay sitting people who are authentication an experts? Sounds not too real.

On this forum I heard stories about people who sells sports autographs on eBay (with LOA, I mean real LOA) and eBay decided to deleted their signed baseballs. And again how it could be?..

It seems to me that you are trying to find any reason to accuse me of anything, even after Roger Epperson and Rich Consola approved authentication of autographs. I see that many people here has a nice skills to authentication of autographs (and it's a very great), but now we talking about eBay policy. Discussion started from Elvis, then passed to the Hendrix, now eBay policy. Pretty strange discussion.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on July 2, 2017 at 7:12pm

Vera,

I can understand why the Elvis on wrinkled paper sold for $315. That price doesn't seem out of line at all for one in that condition.

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on July 2, 2017 at 7:32pm

It appears that the auction was ended early to sell it at the starting bid of $315. The Hendrix apparently was ended after the first bid too. The two latest auctions disappeared prior to the first bid.

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Permalink Reply by Vera K.67 on July 2, 2017 at 8:20pm

I'm interesting, If you think that we selling "questionable signatures" why eBay still doesn't block account? Passed more than 3 years. Answer is because the most of the autographs is real, and small percent is really questionable (because we are humans, not machines who can say for sure "this is real one - this is not real one"). And its happens even in the most reputable auctions around the world. Of course, if you buy questionable signature you can always get back your money.

The problem is that I saw many times how the same autograph passed authentication in PSA and didn't passed examination in JSA (or passed by JSA and didn't passed by PSA). And it's happened very often. Who is right? And you know that it's a true.

Or how many times happened that authentication company give LOA and then people says that this isn't authentic. How it could be?.. For example this Elvis' signature in this discussion: two the best Elvis' experts said "authentic", but you said "no it's not authentic".

Answer is simple you should buy autographs only if you like this one and only if you believe in expert opinion. Other way, you should studying handwriting and other things and believe only to yourself. 3rd way: you don't buy anything (we all adults people and must understand risky of this business).

Few years ago when we just started I thought that it's a pretty simple (just buy and then just sell). But now I opened my eyes, for the 3 years I was offered so many fakes and questionable autographs... And all these guys said that all their stuff is "authentic 100%, real one...". And so many people really buying fakes for huge money: $3000-5000 for obviously fake signature (it's a crazy). But I say honestly it's my fault that I've sold non authentic autograph and I don't deny it (buyer got full refund). Good lesson for any seller. I will try not to repeat my mistakes.