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Ok lets try this one Shirley Temple the last pic is of a microscope camera pic of the ink overlapping

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If it is live ink, the Temple is authentic. Just make sure it's not a reprint.

One way to help determine live ink in this context is to get the glare of a lamp directly on the ink and the photo behind it. If the black ink turns orange or some such, that is not a preprint pr reprint (of course, although not in question here, an Autopen signature would also turn color as it is signed by a machine holding any pen you give it).

nice info Eric thx

and wow, that's a great microscope shot

Anytime GC :)

I think the trick with auto pens is the pressure and a tell tail dot either beginning or ending?...I am hoping my microscope camera can see a difference as a human hand will show different pressures in the sig.

It may well do so, but that may have little to do with just whose hand (speaking generally, forest/trees etc). I think the concern here was live ink vs a reprint/preprint.

the ink shows the glare not a print so far so good I hope

It is when the ink disappears into the paper in the glare that one should worry. 

Shirley never used a secretary nor, to my knowledge, an autopen. It is either genuine, preprint, or reprint.

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