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Permalink Reply by Woody2Shoes on October 26, 2018 at 12:15pm

Strange overall. Very busy; lots of things going on that I've never seen before on any MM. I also see tells of secretarial MMs, but if it is secretarial, again, too many off-elements here that I've never seen in a secretarial.

My feeling about odds are 50% unknown forger, 35% secretarial proxy, 15% genuine.

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Permalink Reply by Fabio Serafim on October 26, 2018 at 6:19pm

Hi! I think the same. It's very unusual, but with "something". Thanx for your help!

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 26, 2018 at 11:27pm

I'd be very surprised if Marilyn signed it. I don't think it has a chance of being signed by her.

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Permalink Reply by Woody2Shoes on October 27, 2018 at 12:43am

I might have gone less than 15% chance of it being authentic, except that both M-vortices are just about perfect!

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 27, 2018 at 5:16am

There's nothing wrong with leaving a chance there. I just feel really confident about this.

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Permalink Reply by Woody2Shoes on October 27, 2018 at 10:52am

Oddly enough, where most forgers try to give you as little as possible to produce less tells, this MM went overboard. It's double inscribed, you've got "Best Wishes", and "Love" and the entire signature appears to be riddled with anachronisms. The Ms like typical 1952-4 MMs, yet the W in wishes something out of the later early 60s signatures and far, far more like that! That's what makes it so odd, like it was constructed using a dozen different exemplars from over a 10 to 12 year period!

That's probably why it "has that certain something". It seems to be a lot of MM's stylistic elements in there, just constructed awkwardly. Like if you built a beautiful house, but upside down from the attic up! lol

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Permalink Reply by KARL on October 28, 2018 at 8:28am

NOT A FORGERY PER SE    SECRETARIAL    I HAVE SEEN THESE BEFORE   MODEST VALUE

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Permalink Reply by KARL on October 28, 2018 at 8:39am

MM  used many secretaries   most common using red ink  I know I have seen this style many times before  

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Permalink Reply by Woody2Shoes on October 28, 2018 at 10:12am

I've seen parts of it here and there, in proxies where you're fairly certain that it's one of the secretaries because the style is familiar. But never put together like this one is. It's a chronological smorgasbord. Like if you clipped a letter from here, a word from there, and pasted them together, IMO!

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Permalink Reply by KARL on October 28, 2018 at 11:13am

The Salutation is odd  you are correct  but the signature is secretarial .  Ignoring the signature altogether I would be curious if there is a studio stamp on the verso

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Permalink Reply by Woody2Shoes on October 28, 2018 at 2:15pm

I'm surprised there was one secretary who nailed her 1952-54 Ms!! Typically, the proxies I've seen have Ms that are all over the place.

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Permalink Reply by Fabio Serafim on October 29, 2018 at 6:56pm

Thank you all guys, for the feedback. I´ll try to get an image from the verso pic with the seller...  

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