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Bela Lugosi - Thoughts?

I've had this Bela Lugosi SP that I'm now focusing on more seriously.  I see things l like. Some I'm not sure of ( esp. the "B" looking somewhat  atypical...although it's connection to an authentic style "e" following it looks right).

That "a" in Bela looks right.  I've also seen him make the break in his surname ("Lug osi").  This came out of a batch of authentic signed photos from this same collector "Mush" from the mid-1930's.

Any help would be appreciated!

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Permalink Reply by Eddy on February 4, 2022 at 1:49pm

I've been comparing the photo to this exemplar from a U.K. autograph album....and it looks rather favorable next to it:

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 4, 2022 at 2:17pm

By 1950 his signature was getting larger due to his eyesight. Here is a genuine SP made out to a mutual acquantance about 1950. Click for full images.

This is his signature upon leaving the Hospital for detox in 1955

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 4, 2022 at 1:49pm

No from me. That would be by far the most legible "in remembrance" I've seen from him. It lacks the double backs on the "e"'s and "a"s. The last "e" is so wrong. Why? 

Permalink Reply by Eddy on February 4, 2022 at 2:19pm

Here's a variation on that "B" in "Bela" from the PSA online exemplar files.  Sometimes you have to cross reference even singular letters.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 4, 2022 at 2:29pm

That PSA example is extremely atypical. The whole "in rememberance" of the OP is too legible and lacks the European formation kickback of the "a"'s and the "e"'s. 

Here is a dopey forgery sold by a top dealer which I exposed:

Permalink Reply by Eddy on February 4, 2022 at 2:31pm

He actually made his accent mark above his "e" rather than his "a"...and it's present in the OP photograph.  

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 4, 2022 at 2:37pm

Of course, yes, I see it - I ammended my post. So then it is earlier - the inscription now becomes very odd - it is way to neat and legible for the underside of 1945 and formed incorrectly as well.

Permalink Reply by Eddy on February 4, 2022 at 2:36pm

What I'm thinking is that perhaps someone else may have written the dedication and then he simply signed beneath it.  The signature and the dedication are not size congruent.  That might help explain any anomalies in the dedication.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 4, 2022 at 2:40pm

Appears same hand to me. 

Permalink Reply by Eddy on February 4, 2022 at 2:45pm

Odd then that he would make his "e's" different on the dedication than the "e" on his signature.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 4, 2022 at 2:54pm

Exactly. He often looks to have trouble with that inscription as if he gets a bit lost. This is so smooth and incorrectly formed.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 4, 2022 at 2:50pm

The "To Mush" dedication rings a bell but I don't recall why. I'm thinking another SP signed by someone else made out to the same name which might have been a collector back then. David Lewis might well know. I'd send a scan to Dr. B as he knows Lugosi very very well and had owned mine at onepoint after hanging in a restaurant for decades.

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