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Adrian Longden Michael Jackson Examples.. Michael Jackson Fans Needed!!
Hello everyone,
After reading about AFTAL's latest announcement, its obvious that it would be beneficial to have a thread solely devoted to examples of Michael Jacksons signature that were sold or gotten from Adrian Longden. Everyone please post as many examples of MJ autographs from Adrian as possible that are in question.
It would also be fantastic if the MJ fans out their could view these signatures and give their opinions as to their authenticity, and what they see right or wrong about them. This will prove to be a very good resource for future decisions.
Adrian also made some very bold claims about obtaining items from Jackson. Below are a few of his quotes from an older MJ thread. He states some things about Jackson, that the MJ fans out their would probably be able to confirm or deny fairly quick. Just as much as we need great authenticators on this matter, we also need the MJ fans that have been so instrumental in the Julians discussion. As they knew the man and his habits far better than anyone else. Here are some of Adrians statements.
"With regards to the Macca and the Kylie on this page they are not the best signatures but then again I've had a lot worse on a few occasions. Even the best or more regular of signatures can sometimes altar badly. The Mj's are real because I like a few others like Victor, Canada, Lisle, Adam & a few more without mentioning full names spent the last year of Jacko's life doing him daily & these were obtain in person by me. I personally obtained over 200 signatures from him in that window.
Now some may say no way b******* impossible but were they there? because those of us who were actually outside his house, outside the medical clinic, In the car chases, at the antiques stores, the book shops, the lights, the original dance auditions, the Ed Hardy shop, the Bev Hilton & the Bel air hotel & all the other many locations saw each other obtain large numbers of graphs. I had days of getting double figures often. When he signed he racked & not many people would know to what extent & this was a period only a few of us capitalized on. I have pictures with & video & memorable experiences of Mj. Do you know the names of his 3 main security? Do they know yours & would recognize you if they saw you? do you know the French fans & other foreign fans who'd regularly travel to LA to see him? Do they know you? Would you know the registration plates on his trucks or what colour they were or model? his address or various where abouts in endless places? Did he personally sign things to your name?? I can answer yes to all off them. I feel like it's wrong replying to these threads but then some may say you look guilty if you don't reply & some may say you look bad letting it bother you? how do you win? I guess you'll never satisfy everyone, there's too many forums & opinions from people now you'd spend all your time fighting your corner."
And for all you fans that he refers to as knowing, here is a picture of Adrian. Does he look familiar to any of you Mj fans who were by Michael all the time:
Below are examples of the Adrian Longden MJ's in question. Opinions?
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Permalink Reply by Brandon Mysinger on
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You know, maybe someone can get a few of the members from the Julien's / Bush thread to come here and give their opinions on these. The MJ items in question were sold in far greater number than the Julian's/ Bush items. So, surely the folks from that thread will be interested.
If nothing else, they can use their social media sites to warn other people about this style of signature.
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Permalink Reply by MJ-fan-1965 on
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Hi Brandon, I am going to post a link to this discussion on the other thread (Juliens B&T thread). Maybe some of the folks there will come take a look.
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Permalink Reply by roger epperson on
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Permalink Reply by Gary Harvey on
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Keep putting them up Roger
Its all you can do, if others are going to say they are real then were gonna keep having this conflict of opinions
I have told a few AFTAL Dealers to their face that I would not want any of these in my collection
I even stated to one AFTAL Dealer that if they were offered to me at $15 each I would pass
He looked at me in astonishment ! lol
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I really wish the MJ crowd from the Juliens thread would participate. This is a major issue regarding MJ's legacy and how it hurts his fans in my opinion.
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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on
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The ones you want are in-person Michael Jackson collectors from about 2004 on. Their exemplars will be important.
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Isn't that the majority of the members in the Bush thread? They were sharp enough to take on Juliens.
Have you asked them to join ths discussion? Their examples and in-person experience would be a huge help to this discussion.
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Keep em coming Roger,
Can I ask any interest parties , that if they bought from Adrian directly or they bought from a Dealer, either US or UK that they show these too
Opinions can then be made
I have Jacksons in my collection, obtained 2 months before his death and I never purchased any of my Jacksons from Adrian
Then again I NEVER bought anything from Adrian either.
Actually my feelings are maybe show any Jacksons purchased in the last few years from any dealer, but this will cause mayhem ! lol
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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on
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AFTAL needs more time to determine if these are authentic? WOW.
Not sure what the stalling is about. What's next? I know. Let's have 100 people sign their name....then we can pump them full of drugs and see how it affects their signatures.
No doubt the NEW board members have been following this since the start. Looks like a group of respectable guys. Hopefully AFTAL doesn't tie their hands on this. Adrian went rogue and supplied a ton of fake MJ's, pretty clear about that. Wonder what other bogus signatures he's passed on? Bet its all high dollar stuff. I'm guessing the amount of money that needs to be refunded will be 90% of the decision.
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Hi Rick
Some good points there !
The drug angle affecting his signature I do not agree with, as I beleive if Jackson was mega high on medication, most probably his Security / PA's would have definately signed anything passed in for him.
Im not doubting that Jackson loved his fans and liked to be handed the items to sign
but...........
I heard there were 30 people + chasing him in those last few months, do you really think that if people were handing in 20 to 30 or even more each, that Jackson had the time or inclination to sign all these items ?
These items handed in are NOT 'in person ' signatures and should not have been sold under that banner
As for the other boguss signatures, that has been touched on other posts here, McCartney / Harrison Ford etc. This will get frightening if those are brought into this
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Permalink Reply by Prashant Kaushik on
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In my honest opinion, these mj autographs are not authentic and are from the same hand. A few things I notice are that the signatures are long vertically, too many slow humps in Michael and Jackson ends abruptly. I wouldn't want these in my collection.
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Prashant, do you have any examples from the same era that you can show as comparison? From what I understand, the AFTAL steering committee is stuck n these since some may closely match versions sold by RR Auctions ( possibly authenticated by Roger ).
If i'm correct, Roger is the one who figured out the connection between these questionable items and Adrian.
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