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Lot of Michael Jackson signatures... real or fake? (Forger Erick Oswaldo McKay, Erick Mckay Burgos) marc-at2014, always-4-fun, bluelifesaver, disneycolector eBay names

Hope I'm asking this in the right section...
I've recently bumped into this person's little collection of MJ sigs...

http://billiejean5809.deviantart.com/gallery/

My concern is that all those sigs look too similar... I'm thinking they're signed by the same person, but I'm stumped as to if they're really Michael.

Thank you for any opinions/help in advance.

MODERATOR NOTE:  All of Erick McKay Burgos' art folders on Deviant Art have been removed by him after being outted here.  They were screen captured before his removal and are listed below.   Please use them to reference as you read through this thread.

Tags: Burgos, Erick, Jackson, Jacksons, McKay, Michael, always-4-fun, always-last-1, always.top.10, bluelifesaver, More…disneycolector, jacksong, marc-at2014, song_jack

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Permalink Reply by The Memorabilia Vault on November 14, 2014 at 11:52am
Now again here is the Martin Luther King Jr. that Oprah is holding which is 100% proven to come from Michael Jackson art studio. It is a gigantic piece, really large. MJ really got this one close to the reference photo I attached and its a really big piece. Being so large any imperfections would be multiplied. He was so skilled that he could really get things close. To get a piece of art that large so close in detail to an image used for refernce is remarkable. There are other pieces in his art studio that are clearly referenced and they are also close to the images used for reference.
Permalink Reply by The Memorabilia Vault on November 14, 2014 at 11:54am
Here are the images of the Martin Luther King Jr from MJs art studio and photo he used for reference. Again the art piece is extremely large.
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Permalink Reply by The Memorabilia Vault on November 14, 2014 at 3:36pm
Martin Luther King from MJ art studio
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Permalink Reply by The Memorabilia Vault on November 14, 2014 at 3:39pm
Oprah holding the Luther King Jr. You can see when you compare the reference photo to the art by MJ he was extremely capable and that piece is very large and he still achieved great detail in comparison to the reference photo he used.
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Permalink Reply by wascher on November 15, 2014 at 5:24am

Yes I know all about the MLK piece.  I posted some pieces from that same collection in my comment regarding the traced pieces, to show just how great his artwork really was in contrast to those.

For those who would like reference to those pieces there is an article online here that shows some of those items.  http://www.laweekly.com/slideshow/michael-jackson-art-an-exclusive-...   (at the top you can click thru 31 photos of his artwork there--and they are brilliant)

Permalink Reply by Lizzie on November 17, 2014 at 9:53am

Going back to Mickey...another one has emerged on ebay today, this time in a larger size (16 x 12) and with handwriting as well as a signature.  The handwriting does look a bit 'neat' for Michael!   (Is  16 x 12 a USA paper size?  It is very close to A3 European).

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301398260329?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649...

Permalink Reply by Ema Dan on November 17, 2014 at 10:09am

This is a fake by a particular forger I like to call "pillow guy".... horrible horrible fake. Dude insists on trying to copy the handwriting too. *facepalm*

Permalink Reply by Lizzie on November 17, 2014 at 10:31am

Thank you for confirming my suspicions...though I don't know 'Pillow guy' specifically, I do know what you mean...there are a lot of 'signed' pillowcases etc around. 

Permalink Reply by Lizzie on November 18, 2014 at 10:24pm

This is another 'Mickey' which I think was sold by Bonhams in Dec 12.

Permalink Reply by Null on November 14, 2014 at 12:03pm

From an outsider perspective, these are clearly tracings... Yes, I can see MJ was a very skilled artist, but there is no denying these are traced. And "well but the neck is .0005 centimeters off" is not a valid excuse at all. 

I don't know anything about MJ sigs, but these drawings are no doubt traced IMHO which brings up the question: Would MJ trace a picture of Peter Pan and sign it? From there, the debate about the validity of the "autograph" will happen. Rationally I could not see anyone considering themselves a true "artist" tracing a picture and then signing it as if it was their own work... 

Permalink Reply by AJ Jones on November 14, 2014 at 12:07pm

I agree with Ryan.....even if there are reference pieces used....they usually still would not fit if laid on top of each other.  Sometimes its better to accept the obvious as any further justification without any real evidence is really  just odd and suspicious.

Permalink Reply by The Memorabilia Vault on November 14, 2014 at 12:08pm
The peterpans and Mickey are not ours and never have been.

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