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Adrian Longden Michael Jackson Examples.. Michael Jackson Fans Needed!!

Hello everyone,

After reading about AFTAL's latest announcement, its obvious that it would be beneficial to have a thread solely devoted to examples of Michael Jacksons signature that were sold or gotten from Adrian Longden. Everyone please post as many examples of MJ autographs from Adrian as possible that are in question.

It would also be fantastic if the MJ fans out their could view these signatures and give their opinions as to their authenticity, and what they see right or wrong about them. This will prove to be a very good resource for future decisions.

Adrian also made some very bold claims about obtaining items from Jackson. Below are a few of his quotes from an older MJ thread. He states some things about Jackson, that the MJ fans out their would probably be able to confirm or deny fairly quick. Just as much as we need great authenticators on this matter, we also need the MJ fans that have been so instrumental in the Julians discussion. As they knew the man and his habits far better than anyone else. Here are some of Adrians statements.

"With regards to the Macca and the Kylie on this page they are not the best signatures but then again I've had a lot worse on a few occasions. Even the best or more regular of signatures can sometimes altar badly. The Mj's are real because I like a few others like Victor, Canada, Lisle, Adam & a few more without mentioning full names spent the last year of Jacko's life doing him daily & these were obtain in person by me. I personally obtained over 200 signatures from him in that window.

Now some may say no way b******* impossible but were they there? because those of us who were actually outside his house, outside the medical clinic, In the car chases, at the antiques stores, the book shops, the lights, the original dance auditions, the Ed Hardy shop, the Bev Hilton & the Bel air hotel & all the other many locations saw each other obtain large numbers of graphs. I had days of getting double figures often. When he signed he racked & not many people would know to what extent & this was a period only a few of us capitalized on. I have pictures with & video & memorable experiences of Mj. Do you know the names of his 3 main security? Do they know yours & would recognize you if they saw you? do you know the French fans & other foreign fans who'd regularly travel to LA to see him? Do they know you? Would you know the registration plates on his trucks or what colour they were or model? his address or various where abouts in endless places? Did he personally sign things to your name?? I can answer yes to all off them. I feel like it's wrong replying to these threads but then some may say you look guilty if you don't reply & some may say you look bad letting it bother you? how do you win? I guess you'll never satisfy everyone, there's too many forums & opinions from people now you'd spend all your time fighting your corner."

And for all you fans that he refers to as knowing, here is a picture of Adrian. Does he look familiar to any of you Mj fans who were by Michael all the time:

Below are examples of the Adrian Longden MJ's in question. Opinions?

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Permalink Reply by Gary Harvey on January 27, 2013 at 12:03pm

Wendy

thanks for showing us the examples

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Permalink Reply by Wendy Christine on January 27, 2013 at 7:53pm

Welcome. :)

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 27, 2013 at 10:34pm

Great job, Wendy...great evidence.

TomTresh2, the person who made you laugh in his Coach's Corner video, is our very own Christopher Williams.

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Permalink Reply by Wendy Christine on January 28, 2013 at 5:29pm

Hi Steve, It's nice to hear from you.

Oh that's Christopher Williams. :) I remember him from our main Julien-Bush thread. He's one of the good ones - a true forgery fighter.

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Permalink Reply by Gary Harvey on January 27, 2013 at 12:04pm

Any decision from AFTAL yet ?

Has anyone any updates ?

Thanks

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Permalink Reply by Brandon Mysinger on January 27, 2013 at 8:44pm

They are till "deciding" Gary.

remember, Adrian gave "sworn testimony" regarding the items. That testimony seemed to stump the experts at AFTAL.

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Permalink Reply by Gary Harvey on January 28, 2013 at 2:37pm

Brandon, he originally said they were collected'' in person''

saying that ......even people selling his items said they were obtained '' in person '' by themselves

a real mystery huh ?

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Permalink Reply by Rich on February 3, 2013 at 2:11pm

I started a thread some time back questioning some sellers and the overly liberal use of "in-person" in their selling descriptions. Looks like it might have come back to bite a few people about as viciously as it possibly could. Whether it blatant forgery or lying to make an item more desirable, there's no place for dishonestly in this hobby.

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Permalink Reply by Wendy Christine on February 4, 2013 at 4:54am

I've collected some more YouTube videos.

They are mostly from L.A. within 1-4 months of MJ passing. None but one (from 2007) show actual signing, but they show the paparazzi and autograph collector hounds (no offense to those collecting for the hobby) encircling MJ... and the fact that MJ does NOT sign, I believe is important to show as it relates to the Longden discussion.

February 2009. Trying to go shopping in L.A. with fashion designer Christian Audigier. Vulture paparazzi all over MJ as always here. At 00:20 Michael says, "I almost walked into the wall." (cute)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0a114psTXY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX6zXeOtH7w

There's one L.A. video where I think Adrian Longen might be in the crowd... BUT if it's him, he gets NOT ONE signature.

April 17, 2009. See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNUT8oAuZog

Is that his voice at 00:06, 00:10 ... "Hey Michael"

Is that him at 00:24 - 00:38.. especially at 00:36

If it's Longden it proves two things. One: He was in L.A. in 2009 at some point. AND Two: He is shown here (if that's him) getting NO autographs from Michael Jackson. Nadda one.

May 21, 2009. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guOcILXglA4

May 22, 2009. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYGbz40yXF8

November 2007. Michael had just arrived back in USA. He's trying to shop in a men's clothing store. NO idea where his security is, but he's instantly mobbed while trying to find his vehicle.

This is WHY Michael was forced to react to the stalking vultures... WHY he had to cover up, wear veils, masks, disguises. All he wanted was a normal life. They-We-"Society" wouldn't let him have it. After all this, he still signs one or two things for these idiots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z2mzDBpHsQ

March 2007. Harrods, London. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q731beKbF-A

June 2002. HMV, Oxford Street, London. Posting this only because HMV was mentioned specifically in the discussion. It's not the best quality video (jittery). FYI: Matt Fiddes was one of MJ's UK bodyguards during this time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_SlLig2LLU