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Permalink Reply by Andrew on December 4, 2012 at 1:56pm

It does look to be the real thing, it looks very similar to my authentic hand signed copy of the Audacity of Hope. it is difficult to say since his autograph is highly sought after, and is commonly forged due to how easily it can be forged. Is there a COA and if so from where.

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Permalink Reply by Mark Roberts on December 4, 2012 at 2:49pm

Thanks for your opinion - no COA - but will refund if it does not pass jsa. :) this was on eBay.

Mark

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Permalink Reply by Andrew on December 5, 2012 at 4:45am

your welcome, if you do purchase it good luck, I hope it is authentic

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Permalink Reply by Mark Roberts on December 5, 2012 at 9:45am

PSA came back with...

Response: "Unable to Render Opinion"

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Permalink Reply by Lex on December 5, 2012 at 4:32pm

Wheres this listed?? How much?

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Permalink Reply by Mark Roberts on December 6, 2012 at 8:42pm

It was listed on eBay - they decided to get is authenticated by jsa. But we do have a deal in place.

Did a digital review with global authentication they came back with

not likely genuine

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Permalink Reply by Lex on December 6, 2012 at 8:45pm

I trust Global as much as I would a broken watch.

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Permalink Reply by Mark Roberts on December 6, 2012 at 8:55pm

I read not to good things about them on here - was just curious

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 6, 2012 at 9:42pm

A 24 hour watch or have they improved?

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Permalink Reply by Lex on December 11, 2012 at 1:15pm

Im not sure... what kind of watch can you slip an extra $20 to so they will pass anything?

Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on December 6, 2012 at 10:37pm

I agree. I have serious reservations about them, PAAS, ACE, and TM.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Frost on December 7, 2012 at 6:32am

Carl,

It seems every time you have an opportunity to trash P.A.A.S. or include us in a category with undesirable autograph authentication companies you jump on it.

I am not sure who you are or where you advertise your autograph authentication service, but I assume you are a professional and well respected in the autograph industry. You state that you have serious reservations about P.A.A.S. and compare our services to ACE and TM. I would think with that statement you have NO reservations about JSA and PSA/DNA.

I do not know what services we have provided for you but I am lead to assume that we have turned down one or a few of your autographed pieces. In almost all cases the hatred of me and my company stems from customers that have had items rejected by P.A.A.S. In that case please post the items that we have rejected that belong to you with the P.A.A.S. Letter of Examination and we can open it up to discussion. P.A.A.S. has examined and authenticated over 25,000 items in the past 2 years alone, so by you being unhappy with your examination or if you have found a few examples of authentication that you as an expert disagree with I do not feel that would put us in the same category of the other Autograph Authentication Services you have posted.

One other key difference is I, unlike the others am available right here to discuss any issues you may have. I also am here on AML to help you with exemplars, and to explain problems within the authentication industry. I can help you by sharing the knowledge and experiences of 32 years of being FULL TIME in the autograph industry. 

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