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Have you ever heard of an autograph dealer organization called the Autograph Society of America?
Antiquities of Las Vegas, in Caesar's Palace, and Antiquities of California, in San Francisco on Fisherman's Wharf, claim they're members. And they say that the Autograph Society of America doesn't recognize opinions of PSA/DNA, JSA or REAL (Roger Epperson) as support for refunds, because they will not guarantee their opinions. So therefore, Antiquities does not recognize those authenticators for refunds under their "Lifetime Guarantee of Authenticity."
Antiquities recognizes Christopher Morales, Don Frangipani and "Col. Myron Ross, retired US Army handwriting certifier."
They used to recognize AAU/Drew Max—the forensic document examiner with the big magnifying glass on Pawn Stars—but they may not anymore.
I have never heard of the Autograph Society of America, except in correspondence between Toby Stoffa and Brian Eick of Antiquities and their customers.
I searched Google, Bing and YAHOO, and I couldn't find the organization.
I asked some long-time dealers and they haven't heard of the organization.
Their proud membership in the Autograph Society of America isn't listed on either Antiquities website.
Have you heard of it? Can you help me find it...or other dealers that are members?
Does the Autograph Society of America really exist?
Tags: antiquities, autograph society of america, brian, caesar's palace, eick, fisherman's wharf, las vegas, san francisco, stoffa, toby
I'm a member of "The peoples autograph society of Germany" and my wife is too.
So far I only found two stooges who say they're Autograph Society of America members.
Hmm...well if we can't find it, it must be an autograph underworld organization.
Autograph Society of America
Rick, you weren't the only one believe me and you most assuredly won't be the last one. It's probably one of the lasting legacies that this blog site brings to the collecting world. But of course, it has taken it's licks & beatings from some (some justified, much not). What I have come to understand is that the interaction, insights, knowledge and inter-active dealings behind the scenes is generally not published (and for good reason) but it is something.
Of the many items that stick in my craw (other than yours) was the gal who had a Marino Forgery Mantle that she had re-acquired after her father's passing which she had given to him as a wedding present from her daughter. These shysters, self proclaimed "I am the greatest" authenticators", and their friends of forgers blogs, magazines & websites could care less who get's screwed.
Dear Rick,
You are not alone, most of us, new collectors had no idea abour a bunch of scumbags pretending to be a "dealers" and selling us a garbage. Use this magazine, communicate with Mr. Cyrkin who can always help you and give you a friendly advice. You might also want to check www.isitreal.com and www.autografica.com exellent start for new collectors like us.
I live in San Francisco more than 20 years. Never heard of these guys. Never met them mentioned on the ANY respectable or reputable website, by ANY well known and respectable dealer or member of UACC-AFTAL-IADA- etc. They don't recognize PSA/DNA ? Fine, so we do not recognize them! I would strongly suggest to stay away from them, unless you want to waste your time and hard-earned money...
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