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Ayrton Senna autograph

Dear all, is this autograph, on a picture taken at the 1994 Brazilian GP, an authentic one?

It will offered for auction tomorrow in Germany by Agon Auctions in Kassel. More info via this link: https://www.agon-auktion.de/auction_objects/2921433

There is no COA on offer, the dealer simply let me know that the photo was part of a collection by a trusted collector.

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Permalink Reply by Patrick1977 on June 18, 2020 at 11:18am

No his 93 and 94 graphs looked different.this is fake 100%

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Permalink Reply by Davy C. on June 18, 2020 at 11:24am

Thanks!

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Permalink Reply by Davy C. on June 18, 2020 at 2:05pm

And what about this one? The seller claims it was signed at Interlagos during the Brazilian GP weekend of 1994. He also claims Ayrton kept signing with his first name only after 1988, which I doubt: the way he wrote his first name after that year differs fundamentally from the way he wrote when he signed his full name.

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Permalink Reply by Davy C. on June 18, 2020 at 2:13pm

The same seller sold this same photo (be it a cropped version) with a different first name only signature in november last year. The winning bid was 470 euro.

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Permalink Reply by Patrick1977 on June 18, 2020 at 2:23pm

That is a signature variation he used 1985-1987 on a 1992 picture... it is a good fake but still a fake. That he only signed his first name after 1988 is bs

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Permalink Reply by Davy C. on June 18, 2020 at 2:27pm

Thanks. I didn't express his point well, though: he claims Senna, after 1987, kept alternating between first name only and full name signatures - he claims that every time he tries to sell one, and they always go for lots of money on the Catawiki site.

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Permalink Reply by Patrick1977 on June 18, 2020 at 2:36pm

Well he is a well practiced foger on the early Senna signatures. Even if it was sold diesn't make it legit. Go look up known examples of Senna I promise you won't find that variation past 87. Especially after 90-91 Senna stuck to one or two variations that looked very similar nothing like his earlier style.