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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 15, 2017 at 1:11pm

Could you please post other examples and a link to the discussion on the FB Elvis group?

Thanks

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Permalink Reply by Steve Viola on September 15, 2017 at 1:14pm

Steve - here is the link

https://www.facebook.com/groups/elvisownedandworn/permalink/1716203...

You may have to be approved to follow the thread.  The other example is in there.

In case you have a problem, here is the other one posted which is currently on ebay

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 15, 2017 at 1:36pm

Thanks, Rich. Could you post a scan of the other side please?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Viola on September 15, 2017 at 1:42pm

do u mean me?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 15, 2017 at 1:55pm

Yes, sorry Steve.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 15, 2017 at 1:54pm

There are things that concern me about the autograph itself, like VIS of Elvis all having valleys between the letters instead of being closely packed humps like you usually see; and the RES of Presley all looking the same, like 3 waves.

That doesn't necessarily mean it can't be real, though.

What really concerns me is that the return receipt isn't also written in French besides English, and isn't the one issued for use starting 1959. Those were pink and look completely different.

I think this is a US return receipt.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Viola on September 15, 2017 at 2:10pm

THey also wrote these in French?  Live and learn lol.  I understand your concerns. The fan club president's name is on the reverse with her address and just in case she is still around and I dont want to expose her in this thread.  I will say there is a Air Force/Army Postmark stamped with the date July 22 1959 and a registered number is also written.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 15, 2017 at 2:35pm

They were written in French as well if they weren't sent and delivered through US mail and whatever military mail service they used back then. At least in Europe.

Yours could be fine if it went through US and military mail.

The few I've seen were the pink cards in English and French, and they looked completely different.

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Permalink Reply by Gary Dunaier on November 12, 2017 at 5:52pm

The owner of the card could either cover up the recipient's name and address, or if they have good image editing skills, create a digital copy and digitally remove the name and address entirely.

International return receipts would be bi-lingual, in both French and the language of the issuing postal administration. French is the official language of the Universal Postal Union so that's why French would be the other language.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 15, 2017 at 2:53pm

I think your card is OK. The one you posted from eBay was sold at Graceland Auctions...not that I haven't seen ones I wasn't comfortable with there.

The signature on that one is more typical than yours, but similar enough otherwise to yours to make me think yours is real. It looks like Elvis got mail from the US both through the military, with a receipt like yours, and through regular USPS international mail, with the pink return receipt.

I'd say you can sleep comfortably about it.

I read the FB post where someone said they were concerned because the date was written day/month/year instead of month/day year like we do in the US. If the military in Germany hired locals to assist in some things, that could explain why the date wasn't written US-style.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Viola on September 16, 2017 at 5:28am

Thanks for your opinion and the information

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