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Could really use some opinions on this Boris Karloff & Basil Rathbone

 I just received these 2 in the mail and would really appreciate it if I could get some opinions on them. I’ve looked at tons of Karloff signatures but they vary so much it gets really confusing

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I don't like the Karloff and I have been looking:

Thank you for the opinion, I really appreciate it. I’m very new at this so I’m looking to learn, is there anything in particular you don’t like? I know a couple of the letters don’t seem typical but looking at all the examples I could find sometimes most of them do, that along with the complicated dedication really throw me off on this one. Ive got a little bit of time to research the two signatures and get opinions before I decide to keep them or not so I’m hoping to get all the information I can. 

I just wanted to add a little more information to my original question. The autographs came glued in a Son Of Frankenstein book I won in an auction. I’ll add a better picture of how they are in there, the Karloff is at the front and the Basil at the back. I have a few days to return it if the signatures don’t turn out to be real. The combination of the book value and one real signature would make it worth keeping but if both signatures turn out to be wrong it might be time to send it back. Any opinions would really be appreciated and I’m here to learn as well so I’d love to hear what determined your opinion either way. Thanks for any help

Uncle Forry! I met him about 30+ years ago - he let me try on Lugosi's Dracula ring! :) I'm by no means a Karloff expert - just some of it seems oddly formed. I would ask Tom Kramer and Dr. Gary Brucato.

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