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Dimaggio Opinion Please
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Joe-Dimaggio-Signed-A-L-Baseball-Hof-55-Rar...
This is certed by PSA DNA but the top of the M and the A looks funny. I wanted to know if anyone has seen this before in other sigs from Dimaggio?
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Permalink Reply by Mike Kaminski on
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It does look very strange to me, but I'm not a DiMaggio expert at all.
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Permalink Reply by Mike P on
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Looks like it has authentic characteristics, but I'd try to find more concrete examples if I were going to shell out big bucks for one. You are right about the "M," he probably lost control of the ball when signing it. While it has a nice inscription and the ball is white, a clean and "classic" signature (at least in my opinion) is more attractive and valuable in terms of collectibility.
Try to find ones without certs and ask people here for opinions; you could buy one for under $300, and we have very helpful people on this forum. Terrier and a few others helped me with their opinions to buy a DiMaggio for $175, and some have gotten signed balls for even lower believe it or not! Just mentioning this because I too was looking for a DiMaggio and Ted Williams ball not too long ago- and when I was browsing, the ones psa'd and jsa'd were very expensive. Hidden gems are much more fun to find and hurt your wallet less!
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Permalink Reply by Tyler Johnson on
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When you buy the ones that are not certed and buy based on exemplars and opinions of others. Do you send them off to get certed after you get them???
If not, dont you ever have this nagging feeling in the back of your mind saying "what if its not real" Do I have a fake one?
How do you reallllyyy know you have a legit one until its authenticated to back you up.
Thats the problem I have right now, and yes its a problem that others dont have but I always want to be sure. And the other thing is if you ever go to sell it, you can get more out of it if it comes with the authentication.
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I refuse to pay for anything more than a quick opinion. Out of the baseballs in my collection, only one is "certified." I don't see the point in paying (like $150 for Mantle) to get a sticker and a letter saying that it's PROBABLY authentic when I can do the research myself or have great guys like Terrier, Ryan and William help me. So far the three of them have been bang on about everything and I have 0 doubts about pieces in my collection.
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ok completely understandable...
Do you certify them before you sell to maximize price or do you just keep everything with no intentions of selling?
Also, where do you look for the deal? Do you search ebay or stay on auction sites?
If so what sites do you recommend? Right now I am looking for a Joe D and a Ted WIlliams to complete my Big 3 set.
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I don't certify them as it wouldn't help me make money. For example, I bought the Mantle you asked me about (still not selling it haha) for $300. Let's say I pay ~$150 to get it certed, then I'm in it for $450. I HIGHLY doubt I get $450 for it. Maybe about $400ish so I lose money. I'm sure I can find a collector that appreciates it and would pay >$300 without it being certed.
When I buy stuff I look mainly at eBay, forums like Net54Baseball and sometimes Craigslist (or variants of it). I only really started collecting this year and I've managed to meet some autograph hounds/people with access to "celebrities" here in Toronto and they've often given me good prices on memorabilia.
To get a Joe D/Ted, like Mike P said you can look for one on eBay and buy it unauthenticated and we'll try to help you out here.
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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on
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Tyler, over the course of time, third party authenticators have been shown to make many mistakes. if you have done your research, and/or put the item up here and it gets a thumbs up, the only thing better would be getting it in person.
as for sending an item in for authentication AFTER a purchase, its like asking for the carfax after you purchase the car.
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Completely agree here.
Unless it's some item like an unauthenticated Ruth that you bought very cheap and are looking to sell, it would be smart to get it authenticated as it could substantially raise the value. Other than that, I see no point.
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agreed
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Oh I completely agree with sending in items after purchase. I was more on the lines of authenticating before selling so that ppl who do not know as much and will pay more for certed items.
I finally moved into a home that I can create a man cave in. I have always wanted to make a sports room and have wall to wall memorabilia and autographed items. I started buying back in August and I am still very green. However, I feel tremendously lucky to have found this site and met some of you guys. I have bought a few things from ppl on here and have read so many things I feel like I have gained years worth of knowledge in just a few months.
Do you all recommend and books (other than operation bullpen) I mean books that have examples of real autos and studies showing characteristics of certain signatures. Books about the collecting hobby and informational items?
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Tyler I completely understand your feeling. What I did, to ameliorate the "need" for authentication, I purchased the ball and immediately put it up for sale for the purpose of asking for a quick opinion.
Most of the forum members here believed it was authentic but I just wanted another eye, and the quick opinion said it was good. Don't waste your time submitting items to the 3rd party graders when the people around here are much better when it comes to the "big three."
Here was the discussion post I did for my diMaggio, and even though it wasn't certed by psa, I got it quick opinioned and, more importantly, everyone seemed to agree it looked authentic eventually. The fact everyone found it good was far more comforting to me than a quick opinion/cert would be anyway. http://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/joe-dimaggio-scorebo...
Also, when you find a signature uncerted after you've seen DOZENS of DiMaggio balls signed, you'll definitely get this sense that tells you it's probably real. Just got to train the eye and you'll be 100% comfortable.
I would open two tabs on the computer: a bunch of 100% authentic signatures, and I would search for uncerted signed baseballs. I would juxtapose the images and make comparisons like that at first. After a while, you'll find you don't even need the pictures!
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here is a more typical Joe D signature on an baseball, with HOF55 inscription. this is much more reasonably priced, and a no-brainer on the authenticity. the only issue is the quality of the ball looks a questionable.
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