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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on February 17, 2016 at 5:19pm

Are you sure bleeding was lightened or removed? I still see some close up in the eBay image. I can't figure out how they can do that without some signs on the autographs. I don't know restoration, tho. 

Could it just be the images? Perhaps the earlier one was a little dark or saturated or the one on eBay adjusted. 

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Permalink Reply by Jay on February 17, 2016 at 6:39pm

No,  I am absolutely positive that this set has never been touched while it was in my possession.  It was stored in a plastic cover away from light for more than 35 years.  I only got it out and put it into a frame about a year ago.  As I mentioned before,  the differences in the scans are likely attributable to different scanners and scanning software as well as the fact that the original scan was made with the set still sitting inside its plastic cover. 

Jay

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on February 17, 2016 at 6:49pm

Thanks, Jay. I don't think anyone is wondering if you did anything to it. Some are wondering if bleeding was removed after you sold it. To me though, it looks more like differences in the scanning, as you said. Scanning with the plastic cover on certainly could have made the blue tint more pronounced.

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Permalink Reply by Thorsten Knublauch on February 17, 2016 at 9:48pm

Hi - nowadays EVERYTHING is possible. And deleting the bleeding a simple thing. As you can see the scotch tape was also removed without damaging the ball pen underneath - or the ball pen later was "repaired". I have seen everything that could be done and you`ll be surprised.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on February 17, 2016 at 9:53pm

Thorsten, you seem to be well informed about restoration work.
So you believe this 69 piece has had some work done to it.

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Permalink Reply by Thorsten Knublauch on February 17, 2016 at 9:59pm

It is just a guess by looking at both scans. I might be wrong.

And yes - i have seen many things. A friend even bought a vintage beatles tour book where the autographs were copied on... You dont see that on a scan and only if you have the original in hand and try to feel the pressure of the pen (but even this could be faked nowadays). Our hobby has gone bad.

Permalink Reply by Jay on February 18, 2016 at 12:06am

FYI: The scotch tape was applied externally to the plastic cover to seal it, so it was never on, or removed from the set itself.

Jay

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Permalink Reply by Paul on February 18, 2016 at 12:11am

Thanks Jay, its fine, Perry is an honest dealer.

Permalink Reply by Thorsten Knublauch on February 18, 2016 at 12:18am

good to know - that was not recognisable at first look.

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on February 18, 2016 at 12:39am

And the plastic made the blue signatures look like they bled more than they did, is that right?

That seems more likely to me.

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