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Help with Ted Williams

This is the one signature that is very hard for me to learn... I am just not confident at all trying to decide if this is legit or not. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks guys

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on July 15, 2014 at 7:38pm

not authentic imo

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Permalink Reply by Tyler Johnson on July 15, 2014 at 7:44pm

what do you see that makes you believe that?

Also the seller just replied to my message and showed me a shop at home COA so of course I was like here we go.

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on July 15, 2014 at 7:46pm

no flow.....slowly written, especially the last part of Williams

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Permalink Reply by Mike Kaminski on July 15, 2014 at 7:48pm

All of the right elements are there, it just seems very heavy handed and Williams was known for a very free flowing signature.

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Permalink Reply by Tyler Johnson on July 15, 2014 at 7:52pm

thats what gets me.. Its all there but something inside says no. Yes the last three letters are what caught my eye as well, but its a round ball I see mistakes like that all of the time.

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on July 15, 2014 at 7:56pm

the "d" is off also. if you look at this next to authentic examples, it really stands out.

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Permalink Reply by Tyler Johnson on July 15, 2014 at 8:03pm

ok so the guy wrote me back and said that he got it from a friend who worked for shop at home. That friend got it from an umpire back in the day. There are numbers on the ball around the rawlings logo and he says that was from the umpire??

Anyway I dont know but Im not feeling it so im not buying.

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Permalink Reply by Tyler Johnson on July 15, 2014 at 8:12pm

I was just comparing the transitions myself to my williams balls here.. the a to m is the big red flag for me.

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Permalink Reply by Erich Jerozal on July 15, 2014 at 8:31pm

ok so I was gonna post to this earlier. Got a new dog and I had forgotten how much goes into, a new puppy. anyway my house stinks and I have to put everything up. So back to Williams...

I was gonna say the D in Ted looks off. I also do not like the M in Williams. The A looks flat.....I was actually gonna say if good, Williams signed this at a very old age. Like Terrier said slowly written.