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Permalink Reply by Fuddjcal on November 29, 2018 at 7:40am

and as stupid as crypto currency is, that's about as stupid as that website with fake after fake after fake.

If you don't know what you're doing and still want to play, find yourself a legitimate dealer...there are still 1 or 2 left!

Stay far away from sites like that Doug E Fresh. That Beatles Guitar gave me a nice coffee pit up when I saw it. Please run like rabbit with thorn in paw and get your money back. You're one of the lucky ones. AND never ever ever believe a fish story like that. First rule of collecting, IMHO. AND when you hear the words "Estate Sale" that's almost a sure sign to run not walk the other way. I hope that helps

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on November 28, 2018 at 12:33pm

That is not an auction house - it is a middleman etc. I see 20 Bowie autographs and apart from perhaps 3 or 4 (actually from places like RR) they are all cheap and hideous forgeries.

My guess was Laguna Beach though, and it is. Bunch of cheap junk at Liveauctioneers overall but they do have some things like some stuff from RR as mentioned - but none of this stuff. Every single Pink Floyd item at Liveauctioneers, 24 out of 24, poor cheap and dumb forgeries. Hendrix signed guitars, multiple signed Beatles LP's - pages... Impossible. And apparently all by the same hand. Fully signed Beatles bass guitar estimated at $13,5000 - that tells you all there is to know. That should approach hundreds of thousands, more... Is the name Rabanne even mentioned online? WHO CARES!?! Get your refund.

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Permalink Reply by D Fresh on November 28, 2018 at 12:54pm

Rabbane was mentioned at the last auction, but Laguna auctioneer threw that at me to legitimize and  to "ease my mind" from the concerns I had with the Guitar. Anyways I'm not up to gambling this kind of money. I thank you for the help. Sure hope I am not making a mistake because the auctioneer just told me that they will be happy to take the guitar back because Roberto was upset at the price it brought at auction anyhow.

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Permalink Reply by fab432 on November 28, 2018 at 1:03pm

I would waste no time in returning the guitar. Just thank your lucky stars that a return option is available as for most that buy these blatant forgeries there are no returns. Real / genuine autographs will always be real and there will always be a market for them. You have to buy from reputable sources and not get taken in by the allure of a “great deal” 

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Permalink Reply by D Fresh on November 28, 2018 at 1:14pm

Yeah fab, it just is unbelievable the extent of Beatles Autograph fraud on-line! The wild west, no laws on the books or not enforced. Also it appears to be next to impossible to find COA companies that would verify even a real Beatles Autograph. This little venture opened my eyes. Another thing, how can everyone absolutely know that there cannot possibly be another signed Beatles guitar out there except the on that disappeared in a mud slide? Did any of the Beatles actually testify to that fact? They sure signed a lot of s*** that can't even be truly verified!

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on November 28, 2018 at 1:20pm

KNOWN guitars...known Beatles signed guitars. Obviously, one can not know the unknown. There may be another, but you will not find it online from laguna Beach for $10,000!!!

REFUND!

PS - RE authentication, the names of certain experts in Beatles capable of authenticating (or the reverse) have already been given to you pages back.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on November 28, 2018 at 1:05pm

That last line is a simple tactic he has already used on you! Doug, in order for you to be making a mistake everyone here saying the same thing - well, I'll speak for myself - I would have to be blind and delusional as well as seriously misinformed, there would be not 1 but 2 "million dollar guitars" for sale for an estimate of $13,500 - a small fraction of the true value which would be well over $200,000 (there are only 1-2 signed Beatles guitars in all the world you know)...and all this (and all those LP's?) for sale by the same source? With the wrong years and all we have spoken of? Changed stories? And you don't answer direct questions. Same ink on all 4 sigs on the first Beatles signed guitar (it is nuts to even say "first Beatles signed guitar") - as asked twice? Epperson response? Etc...

This is now insane. Get your refund.

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Permalink Reply by D Fresh on November 28, 2018 at 1:21pm

You missed it, I wrote you back yes Epperson response thumbs down. And agreed this is insane, it would be easier to get something signed by King Tut and verified than anything autographed by the Beatles.

Thanks again, you have been very helpful!

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on November 28, 2018 at 1:25pm

Sorry Doug, I missed it. I hope I have been helpful - I just want to see you get your money back.

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Permalink Reply by Fuddjcal on November 29, 2018 at 7:42am

Roberto is a crook and it's too bad Roberto is upset LOL. F Roberto.

I don't know about Roberto, but I have a King Tut autograph for 99.99 I'd sell you and it has a Christopher Moralass & Drew MaxXipad dual COA's. It was signed in my presence so i know it's good!

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