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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on July 1, 2016 at 10:14am

+1 Agree with Mylar comments. Been talking about this for a week or more and am glad to see this all here. Your other comments about paint pen and Sharpie (I can't respond there-nesting limit) are very true.

Eric

Permalink Reply by Rich on July 1, 2016 at 7:00am

What's most ideal for note card storage?  I know those are prone to yellowing pretty badly.

Permalink Reply by Pete Bendu on July 1, 2016 at 7:12am

Same answer, go with the Ultra Pro 4pocket page designed for 3 ring binders.

The catch here is that no matter how well you store them, in high end No Acid, No PVC sleeves, the paper itself may not be acid free...... this will cause yellowing in some note cards.

I spent 15 years just collecting index cards, so I know what you are talking about.

One trick I started using about 15 years ago, when out and about in NYC, I stopped carrying index cards.

I buy Acid free backerboards designed for Comic book and magazine storage,I then cut them to about 3x5 and carry those with me.    

Permalink Reply by Rich on July 1, 2016 at 7:15am

Thanks. I never really collected the things, though years ago I got Michael McKean to sign an index card when I was in LA. I was surprised at how rapidly it aged. I got a note on an index card from Eli Wallach around the same time, and it hasn't aged very much at all. I guess they're made a bit differently perhaps. I recently received a letter from my favorite signer, who wrote it on a series of notecards. Obviously something I'd like to preserve. I was thinking maybe some of the smaller mylar/poly bags that Hobby Lobby sells wouldn't be a bad idea either.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on July 1, 2016 at 10:15am

+1!!!! I did not have the energy to get into this last night.

Exactly, if you have a 1940's/50's album page you likely have sulfurous self destructive paper. This can be mitigated, moderated, etc with fumes alone, as can the accompanying brittleness. Not cheap I think.I am thinking of print restoration costs. If you have candid Kodak from the mid 70's, with the linen texture, you may well have a magenta photo now. And then there are the reactions with ink and paper/surface - iron burn etc.

Eric

Permalink Reply by Paul on July 1, 2016 at 2:58pm

I ordered one of those folders to keep my graphs in. I just have the rolling stones 60s set, Paul mc and wings etc floating around.

Permalink Reply by Paul on July 1, 2016 at 3:11pm

Whats the reason to keep autographs of the glass? None of mine are on glass,but what damage does it do?

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on July 1, 2016 at 3:55pm

Hi Paul,

Changes in humidity/temp and so on might cause adhesion of the ink to the glass or other weirdness.

I might mention that anodized aluminum frames are what I consider tops, the museums I worked for also for storage of many materials - wood frames/cases can and will outgas. Oak is particularly bad in this respect - and can contain a HUGE amount of water. Even with acid free materials and all, even if the interior of a wood frame is liberally coated with calcium carbonate in acrylic binder (as a buffer) - anodized aluminum is preferable. It is not hygyroscopic, has much less dimensional instability than wood with regard to temp/RH...and does not outgas. I'm sure many of us have seen the "burn" on old mats and framed items...not all of that is caused by the mat.

Permalink Reply by Paul on July 1, 2016 at 4:05pm

Most of my record frames are aluminium but the bigger frames a wood. It's good to know anyway.

Permalink Reply by Pete Bendu on July 1, 2016 at 4:09pm

What he said.

and the paint pen or sharpie signature may end up on the glass instead of the photo.....or the whole photo will stick to the glass, or even worse, just a portion of the photo may stick to the glass.

Permalink Reply by Chicklet McTushy on July 3, 2016 at 12:29am

OK...if we want to get really fanatical...I have found that the ink from some silver marker pens just won't dry..it sticks to everything, pulling the ink off.
Archival glassine sheets over the piece seem to help.
You can still view the item and it's protected.
Big picture...one day we'll all be dead and who cares about faded signatures of people who used to be famous.

Permalink Reply by Paul on July 1, 2016 at 8:24pm

I fixed my other frame up removed the top loader it looks better without it anyway and I wont have any pvc problems.

Thanks Folks.

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