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Permalink Reply by wascher on July 18, 2016 at 2:39pm

No.  Not in my opinion.

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Permalink Reply by AJ Jones on July 18, 2016 at 3:30pm

I immediately thought "Fake" when I first saw this.

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Permalink Reply by wascher on July 18, 2016 at 4:01pm

disturbia_rihanna_2009 is a known seller of MJ forgeries.  I've brought them up before.  I didn't realize it was them until someone sent me the link asking me too.   It would not surprise me if they faked the email quick opinion either, as most of these people do that.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICHAEL-JACKSON-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-NEVERLAN...

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Permalink Reply by wascher on July 18, 2016 at 6:34pm

Here is the previous discussion on disturbia_rihanna_2009 that I mentioned earlier.  http://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/michael-jackson-sign...   (the coa for Roger was fake on that discussion)

Read my information on the 2nd page of that discussion.  I mention a seller named tallerinmoreways as well.

Heres the fun part.  Here is another MJ that showed up today. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICHAEL-JACKSON-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-NOTE-PAP...

This seller IS tallerinmoreways  But look at the COA.  Its for the item in the disturbia_rihanna_2009 sale.  That quick opinion is also junk.   Mike puts a photo of the item in his emails - there are also hyperlinks that would show up for his company etc. as well as email addresses, and his name. 

I knew these guys were in some way connected.   Same seller.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Frost on July 19, 2016 at 1:50pm

This is once again CRAP. The Autograph, Stationary, Autograph,  Initials as well as the P.A.A.S. Letter of Authenticity are all non authentic.

Thank you for making me aware just wish I saw this prior to it be sold on eBay so I could have dealt with the seller.

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Permalink Reply by wascher on July 19, 2016 at 1:57pm

Hi Mike the 2nd item can still be yanked by you.  The first item I didn't realize had ended.  This discussion was just put up yesterday.

-w

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Permalink Reply by Joey Steveson on July 19, 2016 at 3:40pm

Thank you everyone for your help. It's scary how eBay sellers can get away with these forgeries. They're beginning to fake stationaries and now COAs! A buyer would never know the difference, the item comes with a COA from a reputable source. The faked signature "looks okay" at first glance. It doesn't scream "fake" right off the bat, but I guess you really have to study Michael's signature to really know what you're getting. Thanks again you guys! 

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Permalink Reply by wascher on July 19, 2016 at 5:24pm

If you don't mind Joey, I'd like to use this discussion to continue to add that sellers forgeries as they show up.  Lizzie a friend of mine has quite a few from them that she has saved.  This way we can keep up with this person on the forum.  (we have a few others dedicated to specific sellers as well) 

wascher

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Permalink Reply by Lizzie on August 31, 2016 at 8:33am

I'll start with the most recent from disturbia_rihanna_2009:

'MJ' Black loafers, $4k usd with 'MJJ productions LOA'

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICHAEL-JACKSON-USED-WORN-OWNED-SHOES-LOAFE...

Now in the letter it says 'back up' loafers, so I have no idea if this means that they were not worn on stage, but only in rehearsals, as the letter does not clarify that fact. I just know that they were worn by Michael Jackson. I know that there has been some 'controversy' over Michael Jackson's shoe size but these are the shoes that we received from MJJ productions back in 1994 and they told us that they were Mike's pair of 'back up' loafers. Please see letter attached from MJJ productions. Having researched Michael's shoe size many say he was around a USA size 9-10. I wear a size 9.5 UK and I measured these shoes up against mine and they are the same length, and a UK size 9.5 equals a USA size 10, so I would say that these shoes are a USA size 10. To be honest, I don't think it really matters because Mike was a lovely and kind hearted person and he himself has signed the letter saying that he has given his pair of shoes as a gift to my friend Raymond, so I know 100% that these are the shoes he has given. These shoes have come directly from Michael Jackson himself. I have also had the signature on the MJJ letter verified which I will give proof of to the winner. There are a lot of writings (mainly letters and numbers) inside the shoes which is part of the design by the manufacturers, and they have clearly been heavily worn. You are bidding for one pair of 'back up' loafers Michael Jackson wore throughout the Dangerous tour era.

MICHAEL JACKSON PERSONAL USED WORN OWNED BLACK SHIRT FROM VISITING STAN LEE RARE

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICHAEL-JACKSON-PERSONAL-USED-WORN-OWNED-BL...

Starting bids from $19.50

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Permalink Reply by Lizzie on August 31, 2016 at 8:45am

Current (August 2016) sales ctd: disturbia_rihanna_2009

Black fedora, $1k start

Michael Jackson Used Worn & Owned Black Fedora Hat With Photo Proof

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Michael-Jackson-Used-Worn-Owned-Black-Fedor...

Michael Jackson’s highly desirable black fedora hat worn and used by Michael Jackson in the early 2000's. This black fedora hat comes with multiple pictures of Mike wearing the hat. The hat comes with a full letter of authentication from the fan who had the fedora gifted to her. The hat is a size large and has Michael Jackson's name embossed inside in gold lettering.

The fan who originally purchased this hat in 2010 from a family in England has told me that they would prefer to stay anonymous which is why they have not signed the letter. They have just detailed the provenance and history of the item so that a real fan can know the true history of the hat. The seller actually didn't want to give me any paperwork at all to begin with, as people just resell everything these days, so I am very grateful for the accompanying letter that they have provided. Please see a copy of the letter attached below.

MICHAEL JACKSON SIGNED AUTOGRAPHED LIVE 10X8 PHOTO CLEAR AUTOGRAPH MUST SEE!

Autographed photo $1250 start

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICHAEL-JACKSON-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-LIVE-10X...

You are bidding for a signed 10X8 Michael Jackson signature that was signed back in 1991. This autograph has been hanging in a frame in my house for many many years and now I am finally deciding to part with this item. The 10x8 photograph has a small tear towards the top left of the photograph (please see the picture attached). BACKSTAGE PASS NOT INCLUDED!

This is by far MY FAVORITE MICHAEL JACKSON SIGNATURE OF ALL TIME... TAKE A LOOK AT THE PICS YOURSELF!!

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Permalink Reply by Lizzie on August 31, 2016 at 8:57am

disturbia_Rihanna_2009 ctd

5th Aug 16, sold $36- 'MJ signed' photo

MICHAEL JACKSON SIGNED AUTOGRAPHED PHOTO 5X7 STUNNING SIGNATURE

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICHAEL-JACKSON-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-PHOTO-5X...

This is one of my last signed photo's by the late King of pop Michael Jackson. Roughly 5x7 (postcard size). HAND SIGNED. 

This is one of the last signed photo's that I have in my entire Michael Jackson collection. 

Don't miss out! x

MICHAEL JACKSON SIGNED AUTOGRAPHED NEVERLAND PAPER STUNNING AUTOGRAPH MUST SEE!

3rd Aug 16, $1250, appears unsold

MICHAEL JACKSON'S SUPER RARE HAND WRITTEN NOTE TO ALL THE CHILDREN ALL OVER THE WORLD - SIGNED DURING MY FRIEND'S STAY AT NEVERLAND BACK IN 1998.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICHAEL-JACKSON-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-NEVERLAN...

Considering this dates back to 1998 I think that it is in pretty good condition! You are bidding for a signed sheet of paper by Michael Jackson during my friend's stay at Neverland. This is an extremely rare piece that is extremely difficult for me to part with. This is 100% HAND SIGNED and what I would call ONE-OF-A-KIND!

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Permalink Reply by Lizzie on August 31, 2016 at 9:05am

disturbia-rihanna_2009 ctd Aug 16

'MJ signed' card in red ink, sold $59 3 Aug 16

MICHAEL JACKSON SIGNED AUTOGRAPHED WHITE CARD IN RED INK - BARGAIN PRICE

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICHAEL-JACKSON-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-WHITE-CA...

This is my last signed white card by the late King of pop Michael Jackson. Signed in red ink. This signature comes complete with a full COA. Don't miss out! x

MICHAEL JACKSON SIGNED AUTOGRAPHED 'DANGEROUS' PASS AUTOGRAPH (SIGNED TWICE!)

sold for $91, 2 aug 16

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICHAEL-JACKSON-SIGNED-AUTOGRAPHED-DANGEROU...

Michael Jackson 'Dangerous' All Access Pass signed twice by Michael jackson on the front and back in 1993. I have a signed 'Dangerous' cd that i am keeping so I am more than happy to part with this signed All Access Pass from the 'Dangerous Period'. Good Luck x

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