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Permalink Reply by George Karr on August 9, 2014 at 6:48am

I had almost the same story with one of my autograph some months ago: it had a LOA from Profiles in History and when I tried to sell it- the buyer took PSA quick opinion and it failed. I started a thread here where I stated that PSA quick opinion was wrong (later I deleted it). And in some days they wrote to the seller that actually the autograph was more likely genuine and earlier they had thought that it was pre-printed...Than I sent it to JSA and it passed as authentic. So I guess your autograph would pass PSA in-hand review, but they are very cautious with their quick opinion.

I think the autograph is more likely genuine, but I'm not sure. So wait for more opinions.

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Permalink Reply by Randy on August 9, 2014 at 7:43am

I would trust JSA's opinion looking at the actual item over PSA/DNA's "Quick Opinion" looking at a scan or picture.

You never know who actually makes the decision on the "Quick Opinion."

They once opined "Not Likely Genuine" on a Mantle ball I got in person. I submitted it to them for a full review not telling them it had been rejected on the "Quick Opinion" and they authenticated it and graded it 8.5.

The service is useful to cull out obvious forgeries but they are very cautious deeming an item "Likely Authentic."

I'm not that familiar with Wayne's autograph so I can't render an expert opinion.

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Permalink Reply by Brick Hunter on August 9, 2014 at 9:51am

It looks good to me, but I'm not an expert on John Wayne, so when it comes to him, if it could fool JSA, it could probably fool me.

Really, I'm down on the PSA Quick Opinion right now. It's far too conservative by design. If I'm on the fence on an item, or I want a second opinion, it's basically a useless service in my eyes, since they're going to play it safe and offer you a likely not genuine opinion if it deviates even slightly from the dozen exemplars some guy who took a handwriting course ten years ago is looking at. I think it's a better service for people new to the hobby or with little experience. But really all they need is a service which tells them, "Should I buy this?" "No." Because it's probably some cheap junk on eBay which isn't even close.

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Permalink Reply by PAT VAUGN on August 10, 2014 at 9:45pm

It's  authentic.  My dad has one he got signed in person.  It looks just like yours.  You don't see too many John Wayne autographs.  Very cool!

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Permalink Reply by Darryl Gundersen on August 10, 2014 at 11:01pm

Guys, thanks for the replies. Pat, do you have a picture of your dad's autograph?

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Permalink Reply by PAT VAUGN on August 10, 2014 at 11:43pm

I'm sorry I don't. Even though he got his in person, he did take it to PSA/DNA and got a letter that said it was authentic. Is PSA Quick Opinion the same thing as PSA/DNA Authentication?

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Permalink Reply by PAT VAUGN on August 10, 2014 at 11:43pm

I'm sorry I don't. Even though he got his in person, he did take it to PSA/DNA and got a letter that said it was authentic. Is PSA Quick Opinion the same thing as PSA/DNA Authentication?

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Permalink Reply by PAT VAUGN on August 10, 2014 at 11:43pm

I'm sorry I don't. Even though he got his in person, he did take it to PSA/DNA and got a letter that said it was authentic. Is PSA Quick Opinion the same thing as PSA/DNA Authentication?

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Permalink Reply by PAT VAUGN on August 10, 2014 at 11:43pm

I'm sorry I don't. Even though he got his in person, he did take it to PSA/DNA and got a letter that said it was authentic. Is PSA Quick Opinion the same thing as PSA/DNA Authentication?

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Permalink Reply by PAT VAUGN on August 10, 2014 at 11:53pm

Sorry, for posting the same thing over and over, not sure what happen.

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Permalink Reply by Darryl Gundersen on August 11, 2014 at 5:23am

I have done many Quick Opinions and all but one have passed PSA Authentication when I sent them in. I wish there was a way to know what they saw that made them think the autograph is likely not genuine. The auto is on back of a business card of a Mexican (I believe) restaurant that Wayne is known to have frequent. I am leaning towards authentic with the Profiles in History COA and JSA COA, but I always do extensive research before making a large purchase. In fact, I recently almost purchased a JSA Certed Princess Diana signed note on ebay but the way she wrote "Love From" Diana looked different than every other example I checked so I passed. I am hoping to find a picture of a Wayne Autograph that looks like the one I am inquiring about, but have been unable to so far.

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