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Permalink Reply by Rich on June 11, 2014 at 8:45am

I don't care who you are or what you're trying to prove, knock it off with that tone.  Especially if you want to avoid creating animosity and for people to take you seriously.

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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on June 11, 2014 at 9:07am

Agreed Rich, collectors here are more than capable of understanding how to study autographs. There are very few "rookies" here commenting. I eagerly await Roger's opinion on these items and if he saw them. I dont know enough about Waters to be of any value, but i do know one thing. GAI and JSA arent even in the same ballpark. They may have certed some of the same type of forgeries over time, but saying GAI and the mess they brought to the field, and JSA are equal,  is absurd, and i think most collectors will agree on that. You may have found something out here, but treating other collectors with disrespect, isnt going to win you many friends.

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Permalink Reply by Null on June 11, 2014 at 9:18am

Sheesh, seems to be quite a few of the same people, i.e. Chipper, Cabrera, Machado, Tanaka, Pettitte, etc.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on June 11, 2014 at 9:28am

I think this is Steve Sipe, too, because he sent me the text below yesterday an hour before this discussion posted. And according to Google, Rick Johnson is logging in from San Diego, where Sipe lives, not Anaheim, CA. But why would he implicate GAI? Although he didn't say it was Global Authentics/GA, which is the iteration of the company that actually certed for Dirty Water Inc.

Sipe has only texted me before to harass me. He must be really upset he lost their business to JSA.

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Permalink Reply by Null on June 11, 2014 at 9:43am

The thing about GA is they have certed (and continue to cert) absolutely CHILDISH chicken scratch forgeries...

Unfortunately my expertise does not apply to any items being sold by these sellers, although I will say the Machado's look off to me, and the Paul George basketball looks off as well. 

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Permalink Reply by Jason D on June 11, 2014 at 11:54am

That's what I figured Steve. Just by the way the original post was written by "Rick Johnson" it sounded too much like the words of Steve Sipe. Why he would come on here under a made up name trying to stir the pot is just another one of his tactics. It seems to me he is just trying to discredit JSA in and effort to make his company look better. He is referring everything to GAI and not GA in a possible attempt to make GA look more creditable than JSA and the now defunct GAI.

Now I don't agree with everything JSA has certed over the years as I have pointed out in the past however they all make mistakes on their "Opinions" its just a fact that GA, GAI, Global or whatever name they go by these days have made far more than anyone can imagine and continue to sticker these forgeries in mass quantities on a daily basis. 

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on June 11, 2014 at 1:11pm

So if GA was authenticating this stuff previously and lost the business to JSA than it looks almost as if he is admitting he knew they were forgeries all along.

Interesting exchange.

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Permalink Reply by dexter krieger on June 11, 2014 at 10:11am

I wasn't sure who dirty_water_ink was, because all I could find was a previous 2012 thread on here, but after researching it further through google, I found some information on an old eBay listing of dirty_water_ink. 

http://www.networkscanning.com/store/itm_150652066174.html

dirty_water_ink, now known as flagship_collectibles

I did come across one of their current listed Roger Waters signed LPs and I do see some similarities, when compared with the Roger Waters signatures I previously listed on here, by musicandmore-nyc and gothamcitygraphs. IMO, The og in Roger and the aters in Waters appear to be almost identical, when compared to the others.

ROGER WATERS SIGNED PINK FLOYD THE FINAL CUT RECORD ALBUM COA

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141187913123

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Permalink Reply by roger epperson on June 11, 2014 at 10:55am

Let me make it clear that I don't look at all of the music autographs at JSA.  They have me at their disposal and if they chose to not ask me then there really is not much I can do but contact them again about this.  I have run into this problem before and contacted Jimmy and things were all sent to me but now it looks as if some things aren't so I will contact them again.  I do not do country or pop idols for them (or anybody) so before you tie me or them to a tree for a city wide hanging let me straighten this out.

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Permalink Reply by Rick Johnson on June 11, 2014 at 11:02am

to add to Dexter's statement all of the GAI Roger Waters and JSA Roger Waters are signed in what seems to be the same GOLD PEN!

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Permalink Reply by Jason D on June 11, 2014 at 12:12pm

Roger Waters signed EVERYTHING in gold paint pen on his last tour, I believe he even mentioned it on his website.

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Permalink Reply by Rick Johnson on June 11, 2014 at 11:07am

Like I said in my initial statement I fell victim to these crooks when they had 1,000+ fake GAI items on their site, I know this is the same person(s) doing these JSA autographs,

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