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McCartney guitar in charity auction
A local church is having a charity auction this weekend. The big item up for grabs is a guitar signed Paul McCartney. After reading the thread about bad items ending up in charity auctions and knowing zero about Beatle related items, I humbly ask for opinions on this one.
If questionable, I'll email the church to find out who supplied the items and the COAs. Other items for auction are a Sly Stallone signed boxing glove, and signed photos of John Glen, Mickey Mantle, and Charlton Heston.
Thank you!
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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on
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Yes, he was the supplier of the photoshopped musician signing photos used by American Royal Arts to sell forged guitars. That's the piece that was on 20/20.
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Permalink Reply by Brian on
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My contact at the church is keeping an eye on this thread - as is the company that supplied the items. If anyone here is comfortable whipping their credentials out with some advice (not even an opinion on the item, necessarily) for the people at the church, please do so.
My suggestion was a 3rd party authentication before the auction happens and/or getting the return policy in writing with a list of agreed upon 3rd party authenticators. I'm just trying to look out for my local church and I'm no expert on this. There just seems to be a few warning signs that warrant looking in to. I'm hoping some mods or Roger might chime in on how to tell if you're getting ripped off. OR they can tell me I don't know what I'm talking about and to shut up. Either would be appreciated!
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Permalink Reply by Jason D on
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It's obvious that Charity Grow is watching this thread because they magically removed all of their items from the website last night once they were outed, if they had nothing to hide and the items were in fact authentic then why remove them? Hopefully the Church realizes that these Charity Auction companies use unsuspecting Churches etc to pawn off their forgeries. Good job being on top of this Brian hopefully the Church will find another company to run their auction with authentic items..
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The church seems to be hanging on to the notion that the company they've been dealing with, AS Charity Fundraising, is NOT (nor ever was) The Autograph Store. Between AS being the initials for Autograph Store, Wascher's post earlier (thanks for that!), and the company's own facebook post, I think the potential for those businesses being related is worth looking into. Whether Anthony Nurse is still involved directly, who knows? Not sure it matters at this point.
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Permalink Reply by Rock G III on
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Here is their facebook, its clear as day they are one in the same.
https://www.facebook.com/autographstore
Autograph Store Charity Fundraising
1,564 likes
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Oh, I know. I sent that to the church yesterday. Its getting frustrating to the point of me tapping out soon...
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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on
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Churches are good targets for places like this to sell garbage through. Just because it's a church doesn't automatically mean they will act ethically. They are trying to raise money. Just like many charities they will fall for the belief that the crap COA is good and that everyone is just picking on the supplier.
Jesus would thrash this church like he did the greedy merchants in the temple.
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I'm still holding out hope that the church will listen to the consensus here and just LOOK IN TO IT. Quick opinions from PSA and Roger are cheap. That guitar could fetch over $2k - whats $15?? The auction is next weekend. Plenty of time to do the right, responsible, ethical thing.
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That item just failed PSA quick opinion. PSA DNA just deemed it a forgery. I would trust a 3rd party authenticator who has no dog in this fight as opposed to the fraud selling it with a long list of excuses.
This whole charity scam that's been rolling around is super disheartening. These frauds have moved from children to church goers. Hopefully this church realizes this company is a bunch of frauds taking money from unsuspecting people who belong to these churches.
http://live.autographmagazine.com/profiles/blogs/did-you-purchase-a...
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No. That thread was just to show their history of shadiness.
I have a friend over at PSA that looks at items for me when I ask them to. I felt being a unsuspecting church they would help out with their opinion of this Paul guitar via email which they did as a personal favor. While not an official quick opinion I have never had one bounce back after being deemed real or fake.
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