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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 8, 2012 at 6:24am

You can find genuine, large Michael Jackson autographs, but I wouldn't buy either of these. The one in gold looks like the UK forgeries we've been talking about a lot recently.

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Permalink Reply by Paul Fox on September 8, 2012 at 7:04am

they are both certified by AFTAL , i believe

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 8, 2012 at 8:04am

I didn't know AFTAL certified autographs. Are you sure?

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Permalink Reply by Paul Fox on September 8, 2012 at 9:05am

its got the aftal hologram on the large gold signature photo.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 8, 2012 at 9:52am

The gold Michael Jackson looks like the ones Adrian Longden claims Jackson signed for him that were distributed by Dominic Manning of Behind the Scenes Autographs. We've discussed them here and many people, including Roger Epperson and I, believe they're forgeries...not even good ones. Perhaps 500 or more have been sold, and many good dealers have been defrauded.

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Permalink Reply by Paul Fox on September 8, 2012 at 10:13am

yeah but over here no one can say anything about AFTAL. If you have a different opinion, they gang up on you and blatently insist you have no knowledge of the business and claim that collecting for 50 years qualifies them as authenticators with no real knowledge of the science behind handwriting, such as what PSA try to do, there are few "iffy" pieces from PSA, id say 98% are genuine. Where as certifications from the likes of AFTAL and PAAS etc id say about 80% are genuine. Me, personally, i dont buy from AFTAL, even though i agree with there mission statement, there are a few bad apples that have a "good" reputation. Id rather pay for a COA from a specialist, it has more meaning to me.

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