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Permalink Reply by BreakOfDawn on November 26, 2012 at 9:21am

And when I say we were there everyday, I mean ALL day EVERY day until the day he died, from early morning before he ever left the house, until late at night when he came home from rehearsal, and we went EVERYWHERE he went, iincluding to Dr. Klein's (pictures of us with him at Dr. Klein's everytime he went from the paparazzi who were also there EVERY time) and he never went to Bush house afterwards.

How do we tell Darren we know this story is not true??

Am I under the wrong impression they would want to know the truth for their reputation?
Or they just want to go with this regardless for the $$$ ??

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Permalink Reply by Wendy Christine on November 26, 2012 at 9:30am

It will seemingly (assuredly) fall on deaf ears, but you should post your factual experiences on (Darren) Julien's FB page.

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Permalink Reply by Charlotte Stanley on November 26, 2012 at 9:48am

I doubt he will listen Sandy, hes good at avoiding when he wants to. Ive  written to him before and he answered always so I thought he was a great guy, but soon as you question something he does the mysterious no answer when he cant get you to fall for the lies. 

Its amazing how liars cant keep up with the lies. Like know one can follow through. I really think they have been getting away with so much for so long they feel invinsible. Its like the Bank Robber who trys to get that one last big haul and gets caught. 

Darren@Juliensauctions.com Try it- nothing to lose.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Frost on November 26, 2012 at 9:38am

I am sorry, I wish I could be more involved right now. I will be back on Wen. and have fowarded almost all of the post to some of the appropriate members of the Jackson family. It looks like the discussion has gone in the correct direction. Myself and some other professionals have to be careful in the way things are stated on this forum. The word opinion is also very important to be used right now on in this discussion.

I think there are some great examples of handwriting and signatures posted for analysis in this discussion. Please stay on that path and please try to add as many professional opinions as possible.  Send out e-mails and make phone calls to all known autograph authenticators or respected autograph dealers. I have not seen an official statement from any other autograph authentication company as of yet.

 I have not seen any autograph dealer or autograph authenticator disagree or show any examples or facts that would contradict the autograph findings and theories expressed in this discussion.

Please list as many opinions (negative or positive) from respected Dealers and Autograph Authenticators.

The "E" in Love is a key factor and the letter "H" in Michael as well as the "C" and the connection to the "H' in Michael. The comparison between Michael Bush's signature and Michael Jackson's signature is something I am still working on and it is important to continue showing examples.

I think it is great to see so many people that love autograph collecting and that love Michael Jackson working together. This is not about hate or in anyway against Julien's Auction Company, The purpose is to help Julien's Auction company realize the concerns of the autograph community on the authentication of some of the autographs listed in there upcoming auction.

I would like to note that I have offered my autograph authentication services free of charge and I have promised to have a detailed professional analysis of the issues and concerns of these autographs with examples for Julien's Auctions.

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Permalink Reply by Charlotte Stanley on November 26, 2012 at 9:55am

Great Mike. Sorry about the loss of your friend. He was a great boxer.

Ive been trying to find pics of old items signed before Michael passed. Not saying forgeries didnt take place then, but it seems less likely. Anyweay here is something that sold at Auction in 2007. Not only am I trying to discredit these signatures but trying to find anything that is close. This one is closer than any Ive seen.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4226475454158&set=a.4225...

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 26, 2012 at 10:25am

Michael Jackson forgeries have been around as long as I've been in the business. We identified a major source of MJ forgeries in the UK last summer, and it appears that his forgeries started appearing on the market before MJ died.

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Permalink Reply by Charlotte Stanley on November 26, 2012 at 11:16am

Thanks Steve. I assume its the case of anyone famous, just that the market would be more flooded after his passing- stands to reason. But someone of MJ's fame - I can surely see being faked for a long time. But his autographs never brought that much money before so but when the prices go up the more wolves come to prey.

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Permalink Reply by Wendy Christine on November 26, 2012 at 10:02am

Bless you and thank you again, Michael.  Thanks to you and Steve for having the kind of courage and ethics rarely seen today. You are both appreciated more than you know.

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Permalink Reply by TeamMichael777 on November 26, 2012 at 10:41am

Roger is heading over here now,,,,, 

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 26, 2012 at 10:32am

Wendy,

Thanks for telling us about the Invincible signing video. Here are screenshots of the two autographs shown in the video starting at about 18:50 that you pointed us to:

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Permalink Reply by MICHELLE JAY on November 26, 2012 at 6:58pm

Can you believe what people have already bid for these items that you professional signature authentications have stated ARE FAKE MJ SIGNATURES?

http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/77/?page=1

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 26, 2012 at 7:02pm

The sad thing is that if you can't trust the signed memorabilia, how can you trust the unsigned memorabilia? It's all from the same source.

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