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Permalink Reply by Charlotte Stanley on November 21, 2012 at 9:44am

And you are correct MJ fan. You may have had a bad experience with Mr Frost, but I know him personally and he is 100% honest- tries hard. I dont think even professionals are full proof. No one can be perfect. I have friends who have had items authenticated by one authenticator only to be negated by others and vice versa from many different professionals. I have had Mr Frost look at some of my items and I had some fakes unfortunately. I would rather someone give me their doubts than tell me what Id like to hear and take my money. Too many of them around already. 

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Permalink Reply by Michael Frost on November 21, 2012 at 10:59am

Thank You Charlotte,

There is no mistake or bad experience in this case, it is simply jealousy and hatred.

That is why I rarely go on the web, things are sad and mistakes are made out of anger or without proper knowledge and information.

That is an important lesson I have learned, I think is wise to think , and re think before you write something on the web. What you say will stay with you for a lifetime. This case is going well and very good point are being expressed and reaching the right people. There are thing being done and looked into away from this website. If we all work together and not just jump to conclusions or act on emotions something may be done about this auction.

It is a harsh and dangerous thing to call someone a forger without proof or to say or print that a company would knowingly sell items that are not authentic. Please keep this conversation on the right path, and I think we will also be joined by some additional knowledgeable professionals.

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Permalink Reply by just some dude on November 22, 2012 at 7:52am

I'm not jealous of P.A.A.S., nor do I hate them. Re-read my posts and you will see that my beef lies not with the truth. I won't spell it all out again here, I already said my piece. But again, my beef has nothing to do with jealousy or hatred. Don't get it twisted.

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Permalink Reply by MichaelPureSoul on November 19, 2012 at 5:50pm

These signatures are strange to me, I don't think I've ever seen any like them before.

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Permalink Reply by Anne Marie LaProvidenza on November 19, 2012 at 6:05pm

I agree.  I have never seen authentic MJ signatures like this.  I would stay away from them !!

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Permalink Reply by Wendy Christine on November 19, 2012 at 7:52pm

To MichaelPureSoul and Anne Marie LaProvidenza:

Good Lord !! They are clearly both Michael Jackson's signature. 

Are the operatives out in force tonight or WHAT?  Yet ANOTHER transparent attempt to rewrite Michael Jackson's TRUE HISTORY.  ENOUGH! with turning truth on it's head.  You really think you can "confuse and befuddle" a professional appraiser with the learned knowledge of Mr. Frost?  Unbelievable.

Or are you simply trying to confuse and befuddle the masses?  EITHER WAY, PEOPLE HAVE EYES.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 19, 2012 at 10:23pm

I think the last two Mike Frost posted are fake, too. Good ones, but not real. Look at the retracing up the J on both. That's not the only thing, but one sign. These could have been machine signed. It's something we've been investigating.

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Permalink Reply by Wendy Christine on November 20, 2012 at 12:43am

I must tell you that I misunderstood what 2 photos MichaelPureSoul and Anne Marie LaProvidenza were referring to, and also you Steve when you say in your post below "I think the last two Mike Frost posted are fake, too. Good ones, but not real." I thought you were all referring to the 2 PAAS certified photos, not the 2 jittery, traced looking photos. I agree with you all 100% on those 2 examples. I truly thought you were calling into question Michael Frost's 2 certified examples. That's why I couldn't believe it. That's why I said ENOUGH.

I definitely do apologize for the misunderstanding.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 20, 2012 at 7:10am

Wendy,

I'm not sure sure about the PAAS certified ones. They may be good, but I'm not comfortable with them.

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Permalink Reply by Monty on November 20, 2012 at 10:12am

It's my opinion Steve that the two certified by PAAS are not authentic.  They looked like somebody traced to me.

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Permalink Reply by Wendy Christine on November 20, 2012 at 9:22pm

Wow okay, I'm still learning here.  So those ARE the ones you referred to which you think may have been traced or machine signed?

I'll have to go study them again with a fresh eye.

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on November 19, 2012 at 8:08pm

I think they are both legit. You've never seen signatures like them before? Really?

You talking about the differences in Mike Frosst's signature between the 2 COA's he signed the same day?

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