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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 2, 2013 at 5:57pm

I can't see inside. It hasn't been scanned.

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Permalink Reply by Wendy Christine on January 2, 2013 at 6:22pm

Oh right, of course.  According to what information is out there that you mentioned earlier, the jacket wasn't shown photographed in Sotheby's catalogue anyway. 

It would be nice to locate an old 1989 media blurb on the Sotheby's auction and the jacket.  Or see copy of original Sotheby's invoice.

Guess we're not $324,000 closer to our $5million goal....  :)

Moving on.

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Permalink Reply by Wendy Christine on January 1, 2013 at 11:47pm

Bush showcases many of his eye sore scribbles in his book.  Places them right in with some genuine MJ signatures.  He seems proud of them.  He actually must have thought he did a great job with Michael's signature, which is terrifying.

Here are a few:

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Permalink Reply by Wendy Christine on January 1, 2013 at 11:50pm

Two more forgeries displayed in book, right next to each other - one of each style.  Unbelievable audacity.

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Permalink Reply by Wendy Christine on January 1, 2013 at 11:54pm

A real MJ note mixed in with several forgeries in the pages of Bush's book.  Again, not great photo quality on this.

Sandy, would you please scan this MJ stage note and upload it? - Page 117.  Thanks :)

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Permalink Reply by Wendy Christine on January 2, 2013 at 12:03am

One more scan request, Sandy.. 

Page 34 - ( top right glove - to see the signature on it )

Caption below glove:  "...Michael autographed this glove and gave it to me in 1990."

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Permalink Reply by Wendy Christine on January 2, 2013 at 12:13am

And finally for tonight:

What an exploitative little dirtbag Bush is - in my opinion.  First it was he and Tompkins selling a scribbled on Bubbles outfit and saying "portion proceeds" blah blah blah "to charity" at Bubbles' animal sanctuary.  (Sure).  And NOW from page 32 in Bush-whacker's book, we have another cookie cutter scribble on (of all things) a burn center pamphlet, shown in photo with (supposedly) THE glove MJ wore on the day he was severely, life alteringly burned - one of the worse days of his life.  

Caption next to the photo reads: "Left: Michael wore this glove while being wheeled off set on a stretcher after his infamous Pepsi commercial accident in 1984."

And the Bast*rd forges on a MJ burn center pamphlet.  Seriously?  What kind of creature does this?  Sociopath.

WHY would MJ sign a MJ burn center pamphlet and "gift" it to T&B?  This makes the empty stain remover can look like gold.

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Permalink Reply by MICHELLE JAY on January 2, 2013 at 1:11am

For the Tompkins and Bush Auction, Julien’s Terms and Conditions read as follows: “…a 20% Buyer’s Premium will be added to the Hammer Price on individual lots $100,000 and higher, and a 25% Buyer’s Premium [will be added to the Hammer Price] on all individual lots of $0.00 to $99,999…” “In addition, there is an additional 3% Buyer’s Premium charged for any lots won on online.” These are additional fees paid by the BUYER and calculated based on the “Hammer Price.”

Julien’s Auctions also charges the SELLER a 20% Commission Rate on the TOTAL “Hammer Price” that must be paid to Julien's Auctions by the SELLER.

Therefore, if an item was purchased online, Julien’s would receive 48% of the “HAMMER PRICE!” So, if the “Hammer Price” for an item was $50,000, then Julien’s would receive an additional $24,000 (nearly half of the purchase price).

So, if you look at the most recent Tompkins and Bush Auction at Julien’s Auctions of MJ Memorabilia held on December 2, 2012, the TOTAL price of all purchases is $5,254,523.50.

Of the total price of $5,254,523.50, Julien’s Auctions (Darren Julien and Martin Nolan and, of course, Laura Wooley as Chief Operating Officer of Julien’s Auctions) received approximately $2,365,535.57 (calculated at 45%, which includes the 20% Commission Rate from Seller and the 25% Buyer’s Premium paid by the BUYER, totaling 45% of all proceeds). I have not had an opportunity to calculate the “exact” Commission and Premiums that Julien’s Auctions received, but this is a fairly good estimate.

And of the $5,254,523.50, minus the 20% Commission Fee Michael Bush has to pay to Julien’s Auctions, Michael Bush walks away with a total of approximately $4,203,618.80 Profit for Property that IMO WAS NEVER HIS TO SELL. And the counterfeiting and forgeries, well that is just as wrong and all of these are extremely serious violations!!! I truly believe it is STOLEN PROPERTY belonging Michael Jackson and his three (3) Children, Prince, Paris, and Blanket. Michael entrusted his clothes to Michael Bush ONLY for the purpose of ultimately being placed in a Museum (Michael Bush said so himself during many interviews) and Karen Faye confirmed this in tweets!!!

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 2, 2013 at 7:12pm

The $5.2 million total included the 20-25% buyer's fees, right? Since everything over $100,000 was charged 20% and everything under 25%, let's say the hammer prices totaled about $4.1 million.

At the standard 20% seller's fee, there would be about $820,000 in commissions that Michael Bush would have to pay, so he probably netted in the $3.3 million range.

That leaves about $2 million in fees for Julien's.

These are rough numbers, but they're probably in range.

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Permalink Reply by Wendy Christine on January 2, 2013 at 8:01pm

Thank you for all of your hard work, Michelle.  I agree.  LOVE to you.

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Permalink Reply by BreakOfDawn on January 2, 2013 at 9:04am

Wendy, please send me a private message with all the pages you want from Bush's book, include your email address and I will send to you to post when I'm home from work this evening.
Unfortunately because I only have an iPhone it is hard for me to follow threads here and post pictures.

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Permalink Reply by Wendy Christine on January 2, 2013 at 1:51pm

Thank you Sandy ,, just sent you friend request so I will be able to message you the pages.  There's not too many, about 4 or 5.

Thanks so much :)

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