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Permalink Reply by hominamad on July 4, 2017 at 7:54am

Anyone?

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Permalink Reply by Richard Booth on July 4, 2017 at 8:10am

I'm on the fence with this one. But, if pushed, I would say it is ok and was signed at a meet and greet, hence fast signatures.

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Permalink Reply by hominamad on July 4, 2017 at 8:19am

Thanks Richard. Again, I know nothing about autographs, or Kiss - but I sat for hours pouring through images online and comparing it to these. Many of the characteristics seem to be there. If they're fakes, I'm really curious to know how you can tell?

Other than by posting on here, how does one go about authenticating something like this?

I live in the NYC area - are there any reputable stores I can take it to to have someone examine it? It's not the end of the world if fake, but I bought it as a gift for my 10 year old son who is a huge fan. I'm just curious myself to know!

Thanks!

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Permalink Reply by Richard Booth on July 5, 2017 at 2:13pm

You are welcome! I have been a fan of Kiss for over 40 years and have many autographs from them. Their style have changed slightly over the years, but there are a few tell tale signs of the mass forgeries that flood the market.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on July 4, 2017 at 8:19am

The seller's rating means nothing unfortunately, because very few buyers check authenticity until it's too late, and some have been getting away with selling fakes for years.

I'm not anywhere near as experienced as others here on Kiss, but I'm on the line like Richard Booth is. It looks good...but then so many of the small letters are squiggles where KISS often signs small letters with more details. 

You posted a great autograph to discuss.

Roger Epperson, the top music authenticator, at REAL can give you an expert's opinion. It'll cost you $15 but worth it if you're after peace of mind. roger@rogerepperson.com

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Permalink Reply by hominamad on July 4, 2017 at 8:36am

Thanks Steve. Part of me wants to get it authenticated, but I'm also afraid - because if not real, then what do I do? My son could hang it on his wall for years and love it, but then I'd always feel bad knowing it was fake. I guess these are the dilemmas you face when getting into this hobby!

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on July 4, 2017 at 8:52am

Hominamad,

I think that finding out is important, for a number of reasons.

1) If it's not real, you may be able to get a refund. You don't have long, but if it's a longtime seller they would be smart to give you one if it's likely fake.

2) It would be a good lesson for your son, whether it it's likely genuine or fake.

3) It could be good longterm investment if it's real.

4) If he found out as an adult that it was probably fake, he'd feel fad that YOU were burned

So find out! If it turns out not to be likely real, then we can help you get a refund.

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Permalink Reply by Alastair Mulholland on July 4, 2017 at 11:41am

I have the kisstory book signed and these look like they are good.

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Permalink Reply by hominamad on July 4, 2017 at 5:22pm

An update to this... Roger Epperson said he thinks this is authentic - so I'm relieved about that. Now have to find a good frame for it. Thanks for everyone's help here.

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Permalink Reply by john reece on July 5, 2017 at 2:05pm

Its so cool that Steve and Roger can take the time to keep a post like this alive and seen to conclusion.
To say I think its real seems moot, but that's what we're here for. Nice job to both Steve and Roger, this community consistently impresses me.

John

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on July 5, 2017 at 2:08pm

John,

Your opinion matters! And as I said, I'm not as good as many here on KISS. And Roger blows my knowledge of the band out of the water.

Thanks for the kid words, though.

Steve

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Permalink Reply by Joey Charles on July 5, 2017 at 4:35pm

Yes, these autos are real. Have met just about all members of the hottest band in the land and their autos do change over the years.

We as KISS fans need a KISS forum, if one has not been created yet. This way we can unite and share autos, stories, etc! If KISS fans agree let's do it!

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