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PSA/DNA Certed Eminem Reprints Being Sold???

Hello everyone,

While looking around on ebay, i noticed this item. Its a signed 8 by 10 of Eminem, that has been authenticated by PSA/DNA, and bears their sticker. The only problem is, that it appears the seller is actually selling reprints of this item, and from the appearance of the auction, it looks like the seller might actually be selling reprints of the 8 by 10 INCLUDING the PSA sticker!!.

Now i could be wrong, but from the way the auction appears, it seems that this auction is for a preprint of a psa/dna certed eminem, and that the sticker copy is included in the preprint. This is definetly the first time i have seen this, if indeed, i am correct in my assertion.

I dare to think just how many brand new collectors will buy these type of preprints if they see that it has the appearance of a PSA sticker on it. Im sure PSA would have something to say about it, but i imagine if this starts trending, that the sellers will probably be of the fly by the night kind. I hope im wrong here, b/c this will fool a ton of new collectors if people begin selling preprints of psa or jsa certed items that include the copied sticker. Even though we all know that the sticker (to be valid) juts out from the actual photo or piece (obviously showing its a real sticker), i worry that if these items get popular, that new collectors wont due the research and will think nothing of the fact that the authentication sticker is obviously copied.

Any thoughts? Has anyone seen this type of thing elsewhere?

Here is the link.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eminem-8x10-Photo-PSA-DNA-Signed-Autograph-...

Picture:

Above is the exact picture in the auction. The only description for this is:

This is a photocopy of an autographed slim shady eminem photo. It is a REPRINT. Cheapest you'll find on Ebay, however."

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Permalink Reply by Mykaphobic on April 27, 2013 at 3:19pm

As someone who barely ever reads descriptions I almost purchased this twice!
I had it on my watch list and went to buy before it had ended. Lucky for me I decided to check the description at the last second because it was so cheap.

I hate the whole concept of reprints! On occasions I has sold real autographs for less then a reprint from
Another seller has sold for and that disappointed me a lot. The week Whitney died I saw a reprint body guard poster sell for over $400!

Every time you search a big named artist you are hit with 90% reprints, its actually hard to find ones that aren't copies before even judging weather it's authentic or not. No wonder its so hard for a new or casual buyer to find a real autograph.

This new way of copying PSA takes the cake. New buyer keeps reading that PSA is the best, sees it in the heading and buys it. This is deception in my opinion.

Would it be possible for PSA to ban the copies? Does it violate their vero rights? I'd assume so.

I think all reprints / copies should be banned but copies of an authenticated item need to stop right now.

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Permalink Reply by Mike Shepherd on April 27, 2013 at 3:30pm

This reminds me of the autopen discussion that surfaced months ago. The seller is describing the item as a reprint in the listing. The seller is even describing the item as a reprint in capital letters. I always felt that these types of items would end up in the hands of fans that would not otherwise be able to afford an authentic signature. Only a fool would purchase one of these items believing that the item is authentic. Whether or not PSA should share in the profits of these types of sales is another topic entirely.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on April 27, 2013 at 4:05pm

I always though reprints, even of authentic autographs (which is rare on Ebay) were incredibly tacky. This just takes it to a whole new level.

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Permalink Reply by Tom Schwartz on April 27, 2013 at 7:44pm

I think reprints are stupid, but I accept that they're a thing that's out there. I would have less of a problem with this one if the PSA/DNA term wasn't prominently written in the auction title like its a selling point. Why even mention that about a copy? What difference does it make? I know it clearly says "reprint" but it still feels a little deceptive.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on April 27, 2013 at 8:01pm

I just don't like them at all and despise them more and more. I'm starting to think there are more reprints of forgeries than actual forgeries on Ebay. I very seldom see any that look remotely authentic, and I doubt that Ebay bothers ever taking any action since they're already acknowledged as inherently not authentic anyway and sold as such. But people are making a killing selling pure, bottom of the barrel crap.

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Permalink Reply by Null on April 28, 2013 at 11:05am

There are tons of "re-print" Mantle photos that are copied off of a forgery. Hilarious. Not only are you not getting a real autograph, but you're not even getting a COPY of a real autograph!

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Permalink Reply by Rich on April 28, 2013 at 11:08am

I honestly don't recall ever seeing any U2 reprints that I thought were based on authentic signatures. Some are so bad (literally look like a first grader did them) that the people buying them most certainly deserve whatever ridicule they get.

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Permalink Reply by Darren Ruskin, III on April 29, 2013 at 12:45am

the guys that do all of the reprint stuff go to legitimate auction websites like Guernseys r+r, heritage gottahave-it etc, grab high res photos of the legitimate items and then will reproduce them at will in 8x10. its a bit of a racket but they do tell you they are reprints. reprints on ebay are usually 10 bucks, so minus the dollar or two they are paying for the photo process they are still making a profit = 80% markup. if selling a lot of them i guess they can make some money. my guess is the original Eminem photo was never in the hands of the person reproducing it, they just grabbed the image and didnt bother to airbrush the psa logo out.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on April 29, 2013 at 3:45am

I guess it depends on what you collect and what you're looking at. But the people selling these "gems" have postive feedback well into the thousands. I think it's safe to say that these were NOT from legitimate auction houses. These are beyond bad. Some of them really do look like they were done by a child playing with a sharpie.

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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on April 29, 2013 at 6:51pm

Yeah,

The thing that got my attention wasnt that it was a reprint, but that it was a reprint of a PSA certed item with a PSA tag on it. I had never before seen a reprint of a PSA certed item, sticker included.

And alas, i can 100 percent confirm that people are making tons of reprints that are of horrible forgeries. I see this all the time when i search ebay. I am a fan of the band Paramore, and most of the reprints you see when you search are horrible forgeries, not even close. I also see many Prince reprint forgeries, and even the obscure guys. I mainly collect guitarists, and i am very familiar with most of their signatures, and still it never amazes me. These very good guitarists (yet not that famous with the masses), are exploited with forgery reprints.

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Permalink Reply by Peter Lougheed on April 29, 2013 at 7:00pm

I found an eBay seller in the UK selling copies of a Tiger Woods autographed magazine page I had recently won on eBay. He took the image from the auction page. I emailed him and he basically said that as long as he says "reprint" he can sell whatever images he wants. I contacted eBay and they said no rules had been broken.