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Questionable Stan Lee signed comics

Well, there's actually nothing questionable about them to me; I'm just being polite. Among the problems are the completely wrong 'S' and the fact that he simply doesn't write such a large signature.

ebay seller: jwantitihaveit 98.3% Positive feedback

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stan-lee-autograph-SPIDERMAN-WOLVERINE-/251...

Here are 2 completed items from the same seller that I reported when they were first listed. Nothing was done and they were sold to unwitting buyers.

Here's the nice generic signing picture used for "proof", which was appropriated from this blog about the London Super Comic Convention

http://www.liveforfilms.com/2012/02/28/london-super-comic-conventio...

Here are a couple of legit Stan Lee CGC Signature Series autographs for quick comparison.

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Permalink Reply by Barry S on August 12, 2013 at 2:28pm

Thank you Tom!

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Permalink Reply by Mike Kaminski on August 12, 2013 at 11:56am

Hey guys, Stan Lee is coming to Fan Expo here in Toronto in about 2 weeks and I'll be going. I planned to get a 24x36 Iron Man poster signed by him, but want him to sign it with a BIG signature. From what I see though he only signs very small, do you guys think he'll write it big if I ask politely?

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Permalink Reply by Kevin on August 12, 2013 at 12:05pm

It matters how big the convention is. If he has time for pictures and time with fans, I don't see a problem with it. Considering it is Toronto though, it will probably be packed and he won't be able to accommodate special requests. Does not hurt to try though! Get there early so you can be one of the first people in line.

Thanks,

Kevin

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Permalink Reply by Mike Kaminski on August 12, 2013 at 12:09pm

Not sure how its set-up anywhere else, but here at the Fan Expo in Toronto you basically pay for whatever you want. He'll be at his booth doing autographs for a while which you pay for before hand ($60) and then there's a separate time where he does photos with fans (also $60.) He's also there doing both things for four days so I hope I can get a great auto.

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Permalink Reply by Mike Kaminski on August 12, 2013 at 12:37pm

Awesome, thanks Kevin and William!

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Permalink Reply by Tom Schwartz on August 12, 2013 at 12:50pm

I bet he'd be very accommodating if you get the chance to ask. Getting the chance to ask all depends on the setup, the crowd, and the attitude of the staff.

At any given signing, you could get a nice, laid-back meet & greet type session or an assembly line production where the person can't even look up from signing because a wall of aggressive a-hole handlers are shoving things under their nose every 2 seconds to keep the line moving...or anything in-between.

Good luck, hope it's closer to the first one for you.

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Permalink Reply by Tom Schwartz on August 24, 2013 at 9:13am

Item #1: After having his Stan Lee listings removed by ebay, prolific forger goonart was somehow allowed to list/dump his remaining inventory, making a few more hundred dollars with a couple dozen more "Stan Lees" pulled out of thin air. This was most recently done on August 20, so he's apparently free to just continue business as usual. No real surprise there.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Book-Lot-All-Singed-Stan-Lee-/20095132044...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-Of-15-Promo-Cards-Promo-Cards-All-SIGNE...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-Book-Lot-All-Singed-Stan-Lee-/2009549204...

Nothing to see here, ebay. Stan Lee just literally sat there and signed hundreds and hundreds of items for this person to sell for pennies on the dollar. A-OK.

Item #2: As I predicted, due to the sheer number of goonart forgeries put out into the world, we are now continuing to see unsuspecting (?) buyers trying to resell them for themselves, as evidenced by these listings from mrfix2010.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stan-Lee-signed-marvel-promo-card-/25132525...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stan-Lee-signed-marvel-promo-card-/26127103...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stan-Lee-autographed-avengers-promo-card-/2...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stan-Lee-autographed-Spiderman-700-issue-pr...

Same exact cards, same exact silver-penned goonart forgery style with the same exact "close-but-no-cigar" major tells.

Item #3: And now the really good news. Happy goonart customer dctradingcards...

...is now trying to flip this garbage for an immense markup like our friend livmemorabilia tried to do earlier, before he responsibly pulled his listings.

Remember the 3 comic lot sold by goonart in the very first link in this post?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Book-Lot-All-Singed-Stan-Lee-/20095132044...

Well, here they are broken up into single auctions by dctradingcards, who had them certified by PSA/DNA. Way to go PSA/DNA! The horse has officially left the barn, folks. No need bothering to try and close that door now.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stan-Lee-NEW-WARRIORS-THE-INITIATIVE-8-Sign...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stan-Lee-THE-SECRET-AVENGERS-25-Signed-Comi...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stan-Lee-THE-NEW-AVENGERS-45-Signed-Comic-B...

What about these laughably bad Wolverine signed posters sold by goonart to dctradingcards, you ask?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Savage-Wolverine-Promo-Posters-SIGNED-BY-...

You guessed it. Certified authentic by PSA/DNA and resold by dctradingcards.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stan-Lee-SAVAGE-WOLVERINE-1-Signed-Comic-Bo...

What else can you do but just shake your head?

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Permalink Reply by Kevin on August 24, 2013 at 11:34am

It seems as though dctradingcards does a lot of buying and reselling for profit by authenticating the pieces through PSA(he has bought uncerted autos from me and I saw them resold for much higher with PSA authentication).

He has hundreds of autographs all authenticated by PSA and I think because of his constant business with them and his reputation with them, they pretty much certify anything he submits. Obviously that is speculation, but honestly, that is the only way I see this happening.

If I and many others can spot these fakes sold by gonart and then resold by others from a mile away through a forum board and pictures online, you would think psa would be able to do a little research and determine these are no good with all of the technology and employees they have.

PSA is very good for the autograph industry/hobby as buyers can feel somewhat more confident in what they are purchasing, but there are still flaws within that need to be changed or they are going to lose their reputation, similar to GAI.

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Permalink Reply by Tom Schwartz on August 24, 2013 at 1:32pm

"He has hundreds of autographs all authenticated by PSA and I think because of his constant business with them and his reputation with them, they pretty much certify anything he submits."

This was my feeling as well. This is a lazy practice that absolutely will erode their reputation eventually. We've seen speculation and evidence of it in dozens of threads on this site.