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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on September 21, 2020 at 12:21pm

if authentic, one of the worst examples I have ever seen.  It could be a very rushed in person example, but I wouldnt want it in my collection considering you can get really nice Clemens signed photos for under 30 bucks

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Permalink Reply by R. Tanner on September 21, 2020 at 2:20pm

Thank you, I will keep looking. This one is in a plaque and would be around the $30 range but like you said I would want a nice looking signature.

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Permalink Reply by R. Tanner on September 21, 2020 at 2:36pm

Any opinions on this example? Not likely a nice sit down example but is better looking than the original opi nion request. Listing states that he is selling off his father in laws collection and that he worked for the Phillies during which he had accumulated many in person autographs.

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Permalink Reply by R. Tanner on September 21, 2020 at 2:37pm

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on September 21, 2020 at 4:26pm

thats a beauty

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Permalink Reply by R. Tanner on September 21, 2020 at 5:30pm

Thank you much! I bought it $24

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Permalink Reply by BC on September 21, 2020 at 10:56pm

Crazy how cheap you can get his autograph.

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Permalink Reply by R. Tanner on September 22, 2020 at 2:19pm

I know right? I'm not understanding why he's not being selected in the hof, I believe he only has 2 more chances to be selected. Once he would be selected I'm sure it would be tough to snag his signature at $30, but in my opinion he's got to get in with the career he had and being a 2 x world series champ along with the Cy Young awards. He should have been a first time selection.

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Permalink Reply by BC on September 22, 2020 at 5:08pm

He was a PED user and wouldn't admit it and tried to drag other people down. That's why they aren't jumping to get him in. I was able to get him on 2 balls back in the day when he was with the Yankees, 2002 or so.

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on September 22, 2020 at 5:18pm

being associated with PED's definitely affects HOF voting, and autograph value.  Look at Bonds, Arod, Clemens.   Clemens and Bonds are arguably two of the greatest players ever, and they are tracking almost identically in the HOF voting.  I suspect they will probably both get in as they were at 61% this year.  While the association with PED's has an effect, since neither tested positive they will likely get in.  the other side of the coin is Palmiero, and Manny Ramirez both of whom have HOF numbers but both tested positive.

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