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STUDY: Jerry Lee Lewis - TTM real or not real

Steve asked me to start a new thread since some were having a lot of issues with regards to whether or not the through the mail autographs of Jerry Lee Lewis are real or not. I will post some examples of what we have been getting recently and some know in person examples. These TTM signatures are not cheap. You have to pay $50 for them to his box office box. The question is are they real or not. Roger has said that he has never seen Mr. Lewis sign this way and it looks to perfect - like a woman's signature.

Please post your thoughts here and examples.

thanks

Mark

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Permalink Reply by Henry K on April 2, 2021 at 8:25am

Here is what I see as pretty much the reasonable range of more recent JLL autographs. In November 2014, Roger Epperson’s friend chased Jerry Lee around and got some pick guards signed in person. Roger posted them in the thread linked below, but I’ll repost here for everyone’s convenience. https://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/jerry-lee-lewis-new...

Anyway, these are fairly consistent but range from sloppy to just shaky. The upper right is probably about as nice as one could hope for. Since then 6+ years have passed and JLL’s had a stroke so I wouldn’t expect his autograph to be any less sloppy or less shaky.

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on April 2, 2021 at 12:00pm

Does this mean that the signature on the debut LP posted a couple of pages back isn’t authentic? The other signatures that came back with it look shaky, but that one is neatly and beautifully signed.

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Permalink Reply by Henry K on April 2, 2021 at 12:27pm

Which page is that one on? I recognize that your tolerance for deviation on these is significantly higher than mine so we may very well conclude differently.

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on April 2, 2021 at 12:39pm

Page 26.

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Permalink Reply by Henry K on April 2, 2021 at 12:45pm

Nearly 90 pages back and 5 years ago! Thread’s a bit hard to navigate.

I think the one on the debut album looks a lot like the upper right pick guard on the prior page that I said was about as nice as one could hope for in an autograph of recent vintage. That one’s not controversial to me.

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on April 2, 2021 at 1:24pm

Great. Now, what is it that distinguishes this “pre-call out” TTM from the signed LP in such a way that one is authentic and the other isn’t?

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Permalink Reply by Henry K on April 2, 2021 at 1:35pm

The bizarre backstroke of the J, the letters r in Jerry, the L in Lee. It’s closer, but I think this is a secretarial by someone who can come somewhat closer to approximating the signature. I don’t look just letter by letter, I look at the whole flow. Frankly, the entirety of what I see just looks different to me. Some on this site or others may have liked this signature, but I am a firm no.

I also think the many squiggles are probably a secretarial tell.

Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on April 2, 2021 at 1:40pm

Where is there a backstroke of the “J”?

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Permalink Reply by Henry K on April 2, 2021 at 1:51pm

It’s in the Million Dollar Quartet photo, which I think is secretarial. After the backstroke of the J, the signer made a long diagonal slant back left and downward before making the e. Atypical.

I didn’t like this one 7 years ago, and I have never seen an exemplar that would change my mind.

Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on April 2, 2021 at 1:54pm

That’s an upstroke to begin the “E”.

Permalink Reply by Henry K on April 2, 2021 at 2:09pm

I think it starts with the backstroke of the J and goes backwards, but if it’s somehow the upstroke to the e, it extends well past the e for some reason.
In any case, it doesn’t really matter what it is, it’s an atypical formation and one I think was made by someone other than Jerry Lee. For what it’s worth, I would still be skeptical on this one even if that backstroke/upstroke weren’t there.

Permalink Reply by Paul on April 2, 2021 at 11:18pm