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Here's a nice case where doing a few more minutes of homework might have marginally helped your already lousy forgery.

Here's a clearly forged drumhead supposedly signed in-person by the band Garbage.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garbage-Signed-Drumhead-Shirley-Manson-Full...

This is actually hilarious for a number of reasons:

*Here's my favorite one:  Daniel Shulman was not even their touring bassist on the last tour (this was supposedly signed in May 2012).  Eric Avery was.  This guy didn't even bother looking that up before forging this.

*The band actually signs pretty consistently and plentifully, so spotting a fake is relatively easy.  None of these autographs are even close and are decidedly signed by the same hand.  The Manson is particular is based on a mid/late 90's signing style.  Her signature never looks like that anymore and hasn't for years.

*"Don't even ASK how hard and what I had to do to get Butch Vig's signature."  Probably not much.  Butch is extremely accessible to fans, as is the rest of the band.  Actually, since the seller is the one who signed it, I guess the only thing he had to do was pick up a sharpie.

*"But if you offer proof that its "Fake"....I'll fully refund your money...."  I love when bad forgers dare you to prove their item is fake.

 

It would appear that these are this forger's first Ebay listings (he also has a Tori Amos signed guitar and Depeche Mode signed LP).   Hopefully Ebay shuts him down before a naive fan gets burned.

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It's not bullying. It's you not liking the fact that you got caught trying to rip off Garbage, music fans on eBay with a forgery item that you more than likely signed yourself. And as far as your bullying implied statement, apparently you're oblivious to the long ranting messages you posted on this thread, originally going on the attack toward Rich. YOU started off the bullying with a statement saying "im about to make this Rich guy look like an idiot.", which you failed, because the end result is that you ended up looking like one on here.

Moderator note:  Loren has been removed for offensive language.

wouldn't a real Garbage signed drumhead go for around 20 quid? Why would anyone bother in the first place. Always perplexing.Funny read and funny fight. Got my laugh for the day....D

Darren, you have no idea wow ugly this got.  This thread is only a fraction of it.

There's a long, detailed version, and the very short version.  I'll opt for the short:  This guy Loren has some serious, serious issues that we could not even begin to address here.  He needs help, and I sincerely hope he finds it.

With that, I'll go ahead and close this thread.  I think it's has more than run its course.

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