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What is up with Substance Collectables - Milton Luban
Jason had started a thread; http://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/what-is-exact-proof-...
and like all good threads there are discussions witin discussions but this sub-discussion came up on a dealer Milton Lubin & http://www.substancecollectables.com/boxing_hall_of_fame___1
It appears that in 2003 although the Lubans were properly served but they failed to answer the complaint.
Jason went on further in one comment;
This link is the link with the guy and the actual photo we have on files one doctored that has the guy mentioned above.
http://bertorelli.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/rocky%c2%b4s-boxing-glov...
On 17 May 2012 the guys who were building a file heard the following news : He received a letter from the lawyers of Prince Marketing and Super Star Greetings today. Telling him to remove all items and images of Joe Frazier, Micky Ward, Roy Jones Jr, Hulk Hogan, Chuck Zito, Vinnie Paz and the Super Star Greetings logo. This guy is total scum and is getting what he deserves.
The most famous website in the world for tackling fakes did a special on him here you can read it for your selfs. click the link.
I wont pu the photos yet I will leave them as aces in our hands till we have too but I believe there is enough here to make your minds up if this is true or not.
http://www.isitreal.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=7...
Recently I received some photos that appear to have been photoshopped and were alleged to be used by Milton Lubin to promote his product offerings. The one on the left is what has been alledged as the real one while the one on the right has been alledged as fake ones that were used as "proof" pictures.
One recent excerpt from Jason;
Ps yes DB strange here seems no one in America cares about what s going on in their door step and on of this forums own. (sometimes Jason - it takes some extra cycles ;-)
Since I have no dogs in this fight and Milton Lubin is an AML member here as was pointed out in the intial thread above, it would be pertinent to have some feedback on these claims and allegations.
Replies to This Discussion
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Permalink Reply by Milton Lubin on
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A******, Sam will get an answer, you can go to bed.
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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on
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No profanity, please. But feel free to tell Milton Luban exactly what you think of him and the forgeries he sells.
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Permalink Reply by Dom Vito Castiglione on
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rich gonzo and milton lubin are big pieces of kitten feces.
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Permalink Reply by rich gonzo on
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Hey Dom, go back to the pizza ovens and relax a bit, please
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Permalink Reply by GuardDogg on
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Thank you Steve. I was about to email you about the sudden rush that followed Miltons entry today. Not confident Milton is prepared for our members that have done their homework now that you have stopped the childish antics. We will see.
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Steve, you are you part of the lynching team also?? Your the community manager? Your comment tells me quite alot about you!!!
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No, I'm just one of the waiters looking forward to serving Milton Luban his just desserts.
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Steve
You are a respectful, patient and professional man. The big mouths on here that want to 'brag' about how much they know and all they have and insult without expecting a hard core response is amazing. It is my experience that those that have to say "I'm a big shot and have $100's of thousands of dollars of memorabilia" really possess neither. The high end experienced collectors I know have no need to brag. If members would just stick to this forums topic hopefully we can make some headway. Thanks for your interjections as it seemed to shut up the morons.
Most all of us appreciate your having this website available to us in order to bring the rip off sellers on the internet made known. Hopefully it will be most helpful to those new to the world of collectimg and seeing who to stay away from. All of your forums serve a great justice to this industry and help collectors remain safe and expose those that design storefronts which are designed to fool many. One that comes to mind is Substance Collectibles which is why we are here.
Hopefully Milton will finally "man up" and address this forums posted facts about his business practices.
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So Milton
It's good to see you finally jumped into this forum after so many postings and no response from you.
What do you say about the items of yours posted in this forum, the photo shopping claims that have been shown and the claim that you are not allowed to sell on ebay but kept Using a new user ID to try and sell several times.
We have a few members that would like to chime in as we discuss in a professional manner.
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Perhaps in about 20 years you many command the respect to get an answer to those questions, until then you may as well keep on collecting the cheap items that you are accustomed to buying
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