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The Pros and Cons of Meet-and-Greets

It’s about time I tackle this subject. I must admit, though…I’m doing so with lots of second-hand stories and editorializing. It’s also after midnight (no Clapton reference intended). I’m a little tired and just typing off the top of me head!

A few of the late night shows did a comparison between the meet-and-greets that were happening at Avril Lavigne’s concert recently. She was charging $400 for the meet-and-greet, but you couldn’t touch her. That created a series of pictures that were…really funny to look at. Fans were standing two feet from her.

A few days later, there were photos of Rhianna’s meet-and-greet. I’m not sure what she was charging, but one thing for sure. She was getting up close and personal. She’d have her arms around you. She’d let you grab her a**. She’d do wacky photos, if that’s what you wanted. And it really seems that if you’re spending the big bucks for the meet-and-greet, that’s the way a celebrity should be with the fans.

Now, this leads to the autograph collector. Since I worked for five years at a classic rock radio station, I had been backstage many times. This was before meet-and-greets were so common – unless it was put on by the radio station or some other promotion. There was never a price attached to attend them (ah, the good ol’ days!)

The first time I had the opportunity to spend money for one, was to have dinner with Paul McCartney for $5,000. I was on the fence about it. Only 20 people were being allowed to attend. When I called a few days later, they told me only two people had signed up. I was thrilled. There might only be a few of us. I told my friend he was the only Beatle I needed to complete a set, but I still wasn’t comfortable spending that much money. He and I came up with a good plan, though. I’d bring 20 albums. Have him sign those, and sell 10, to help shoulder the cost. Now, selling autographs goes against everything I feel about this hobby, but if it meant I got into an event cheaper, I was considering it. I said, “There’s no way he’s going to sign 20 albums for me.” My friend replied, “There’s no way he’s not going to. You paid five grand to get in! He owes it to you.”

I ended up not going, because I figured the most he’d sign for me was five. Thankfully, I eventually got his signature another way.

Now, fast forward 18 years. I met a guy that DID go to that same dinner. He told me he brought eight items for Sir Paul to sign. McCartney sighed, and signed two. Paul then looked over at a big guy in a suit, who promptly came over and said, “Paul isn’t here to sign a bunch of stuff.”

McCartney said, “I’ll sign one more for you, but that’s it.”

The guy got three items signed for his $5,000 (which went to a vegetarian charity he was promoting). I won’t do the math, but…that’s a lot to spend for 3 items that aren’t worth that much. I was happy I opted not to do it.

My friend is a locksmith, and he was re-keying a concert hall that Bonnie Raitt was playing at. She had turned me down for an autograph years ago, but when she did a benefit my sister was involved in, she helped me snag a signature. Raitt was charging around $500 for a backstage meet-and-greet, that included eating with her. Yet all the money she charged went to charity. That certainly makes it more palatable.

My biggest fear about these M&Gs is that the autograph collector is the most likely to be disappointed. The fans that want the wacky photos for Facebook are set. That’s because most bands are probably willing to sign a few items, but not many more. So you have to decide – is $500 or more – worth one or two items signed, and some photos? Yet the more I hear and read about M&Gs, the more I’m finding out that bands aren’t willing to sign.

I spent $100 for a meet-and-greet with Steppenwolf, because it’s a band I love, and the money went to an animal rescue charity (and included watching the sound check performance). Singer/songwriter John Kay snapped at me when I slid a third item on the table for him to sign. This is a guy that is legally blind!!! Yet he noticed, after we were all told “two items each,” I had a 3rd thing in there.

I’ve been writing the Kiss Kronikles, and a few have talked about how much they charge at the meet-and-greets. Well, I read an interview with former Metallica member Jason Newsted. He said Metallica always wanted them to do M&G’s, because Kiss made so much money. He said that it’s ridiculous to pay to meet Gene Simmons. He wouldn’t have a problem paying a few hundred to meet his favorite players from the 1970s Baltimore Orioles, but not rock stars. He said when you meet them in person, they should always sign autographs, and he’s never charged for an autograph until the website went up. He figures if fans want to order a CD or 8x10 signed on the website, they can pay, but never in person. Now that’s the attitude I want to see.

I’ve talked to a few friends that have paid for the M&Gs for “30 Seconds to Mars,” and they were told no photos. That bothered them.

There was controversy on the Godsmack website, when a fan talked about paying for the VIP package (which included a M&G). It wasn’t until after the purchase was made, that the band put on their Facebook page, “No autographs or photos.”

A woman was furious (and rightly so). She posted, “If they’re going to do this, they should state those rules on the page where we are paying for these tickets.”

Other people later posted that the band usually does sign, but only one item per person, and only if they have time. They will usually take photos, but with their photographer (which is a common practice for bands now). You then go to their website and download it.

I have been hearing horror stories regarding ZZ Top and how they handle M&Gs. This didn’t surprise me, because a stagehand I know, told me that’s the only band that ever refused to sign an autograph for him as he was working on the stage (and he only had one photo he would ask to have signed).

On the ZZ Top website, a man wrote a blog about how he was a big fan and paid $300 for the M&G. He was told by the bands manager that there would be no autographs and no photos. It would be a Q&A with the band, but that only 4 of the 20 people with their hands raised had questions answered. He was furious about spending the money for what was basically a cattle call.

Another woman wrote of a similar experience, saying she paid for this for her husband. It was enough money to feed them for a week, but she wanted to splurge for him. He came back to the hotel room rather upset. He said it was a quick three minutes and he didn’t get to say a word to the band.

So the conclusion I’ve come to is – do your research before dropping big bucks for the meet-and-greets. You might get an item signed, and a photo – but you might not. If it’s your favorite band or the money goes to charity – go for it. You’ll probably never get the chance again.

I just prefer bands to do what Def Leppard told me in an interview. They said they finally started charging for their autographs. They make everyone pay $5 and they give 100% of that to charity.

That’s affordable for everyone, and some charity gets a nice chunk of change.

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Tags: 30 Seconds to Mars, Avril Lavigne, Bonnie Raitt, Def Leppard, Gene Simmons, Godsmack, Jason Newsted, John Kay, Kiss, Metallica, More…Paul McCartney, Rhianna, Steppenwolf, ZZ Top

Comment by Brian on May 18, 2014 at 2:06pm

But not if I purchased a package labeling me as A...VERY...IMPORTANT...PERSON.

Comment by Carlos on May 18, 2014 at 2:09pm
Lol
Comment by Peter C. on May 18, 2014 at 2:14pm

It can change into deep ethical discussion....

When you pay for meet & greet - you are customer and in fact "the stars" are your "service"... They should feel interest in your satisfaction from M&G - you are client who payed for it. Just because of respect for client the stars should have good name on their minds.... There is nothing worse than set hardcore fans (who usually are those who pays for it) against you (as star)! As music star - you should never forget why you are that star - its because of your fans - so you should have respect for them. From my experience - I can tell you that even the greatest artists KNOW it and they act according to it... If you cant offer fans what they want - there is no reason why to do it.

Comment by Carlos on May 18, 2014 at 2:16pm
It's funny the bold compares the Rihanna and Avril meet and greets but no one here should complain cause they both gave autographs lol
Comment by Brian on May 18, 2014 at 2:42pm

I assume Avril's people provided the pre-signed 8x10 they promised.  As they should. I can't find Rihanna's specific details, but I'm sure they delivered what they promised. I think the point with them is Avril did what she was legally obligated to do. Rihanna did the same, but for whatever reasons, took fun photos with her fans. She didn't need to do that. I am not a fan and don't know much about either , but looking at the photos, I assume Rihanna's enthusiasm and Avril's lack of were genuine. Just my opinion.

Comment by Josh Board on May 19, 2014 at 12:02am

Carlos...you keep sounding like a broken record, when the fact is -- you are wrong. Here's why. If you were to ask 98% of the population, what a "meet and greet" with a band means (even non autograph collectors), they would say "You can meet them, talk to them, take pictures, get autographs." For hundreds and hundreds of years, fans have been asking for autographs...of athletes, actors, singers, politicians. So when bands charge, what many feel, to be enormous amounts of money for the opportunity -- it is IMPLIED that getting an autograph is part of that. No, not having every album Deep Purple put out from 1970 until 1984 -- but a few items. And NO FAN would be disappointed if told "We just sign one item per person" but ya gotta sign at least an item. What you keep saying, is arguing the definition of two individual words, but that makes little sense. If you went to a bar because they had a big sign that said "Happy Hour"...and they didn't have drinks at a cheaper price....do you think your logic of "Well...I'm happy. You seem happy. And, look at the clock. It's an hour. So...it is a 'happy' 'hour'. It doesn't say "drinks are half price"...go buy a dictionary."

(sorry, that may be the worst analogy I ever had, but...I think you get the point)

Comment by Josh Board on May 19, 2014 at 12:04am

Now, in regards to the story about asking Deep Purple great questions -- I do have some interview experiences that trump the autograph. I admit that. Yet as I stated (and somebody just agreed with)...most times they are conversations that are one-sided ... me stating I'm a fan, them thanking me. So, having the item signed is what I prefer.

Comment by Peter C. on May 20, 2014 at 9:15am

Let´s put it this way - what´s the point of meet&greet? To give fans something special.... and you dont need them to go home disappointed. Everything else can be deduced from it.

Comment by Null on May 20, 2014 at 12:52pm

If I pay $100-$300 for a M&G I would fully expect at bare minimum an autograph, and a damn good chance at a photo with the person. If I paid $300-$500 I'm expecting both. 

If they said "No photos/autographs" beforehand, I simply would not be wasting my money on that "experience". (And I think it's bogus for them to even hold a M&G if they aren't willing to do 1 or the other...). I've met quite a few "famous" people, and it's usually just very awkward small talk for 10-30 seconds, (while they try to act interested and/or get away from you) and then it's over. If M&G's are THAT MISERABLE for the band/celebrity/athlete  that they won't sign one item, and/or snap a pic with you, then I don't want to meet them in the first place. 

That being said, I am totally fine with them only being willing to sign 1 item. I'm also ok with them requesting to personalize every item. I'm ok with 2 items, *maybe* 3 if you're getting 1 signed for a pal and there aren't many people there, but anything more than 3 is ridiculous IMHO. It just makes you look like either a dealer or a super creep LOL. 

Comment by Null on May 20, 2014 at 12:55pm

Also can't remember who posted it earlier in the conversation, but $100 for a M&G with the 6th place person from American Idol? LOLOLOLOL who in the hell does she think she is? She should pay YOU to take a picture with her and promote her on whatever social media you post it to. 

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