We are an eBay affiliate and may be compensated for clicks on links that result in purchases.
Stephen Rocchi opened Guaranteed Forensic Authenticators (GFA) in September 2011, with John Gorajczyk listed as their forensic document examiner.
I remember reading in one of the baseball forums that numerous autograph collectors were excited that a new Third-Party Authentication (TPA) company was going to compete with PSA/DNA and JSA.
But that excitement was short-lived when collectors started posting photos of GFA-certified autographs.
They were the same well-known sports autograph forgery styles certified by Nicholas Burczyk, Chris Morales, Ted Taylor and Drew Max (AUU) and sold by AtAuction.com.
My observation of the autographs sold by AtAuction.com (formerly Always At Auction) is that I never saw one authentic autograph being listed and sold over there. Not one.
According to an email I received from AtAuction in October 2010 all of the AtAuction inventory originated from leftover Scoreboard inventory.
Of course, that is a lie, since, except for a few beat-up Mantle signed autographs, there was no leftover Scoreboard inventory awarded to anyone.
Below is a statement written by Ken Goldin back in 2012.
My Focus Today
This thread is going to focus on my purchases from AtAuction.com (John House).
Previously, I made numerous purchases from AtAuction.com with COAs from Chris Morales, Ted Taylor and Drew Max.
The purchases I will focus on today all have COAs from Guaranteed Forensic Authenticators (GFA).
I purchased these directly from AtAuction.com.
The team at GFA includes Stephen Rocchi and John Gorajczyk.
My AtAuction.com Purchases and Guaranteed Forensic Authenticators (GFA)
Years ago I made purchases of AtAuction pieces with GFA (Rocchi) COAs. I recently opened them up. The pieces consisted of forged Mickey Mantle, Whitey Ford and Ted Williams photos. They all arrived matted and framed.
They are all come with a COA from Stephen Rocchi/John Gorajczyk and their Guaranteed Forensic Authenticators (GFA) group.
I will state that since the inception of GFA in Sept. 2011, I have personally not observed any authentic autographs of Mickey Mantle, Ted Williams, Joe DiMaggio, Willie Mays and Sandy Koufax with COAs from Guaranteed Forensic Authenticators (GFA).
So I purchased a few so that I could examine them myself.
I will also state, that my first observation of the autographed photos with COAs from GFA is that they looked too rigid and stiff to be penned by the human hand.
In my opinion, they look to be mechanically drawn.
So even though I knew they were forgeries, I wanted a few of them in my possession so that I could scrutinize them.
Without being examined in-person, these are obvious forgeries. I call them no-brainer forgeries.
Let's Get Started
First we have my Mickey Mantle/Ted Williams purchase. This is one of the most popular images used by the source of the AtAuction inventory.
Let's Examine The Paper
The below images are from my ProScope HR (50X magnification) of the Mantle/Williams image.
My own "Forensic Paper Analysis."
Observe the dots. This is clearly inkjet paper.
Why didn't Stephen Rocchi and John Gorajczyk discover that during their "Forensic" and "Scientific" examination of this piece?
Mickey Mantle passed away August 13, 1995.
When would have Mr. Mantle signed photos that were produced on inkjet paper in mass quantities?
Not only that, but it would have been cost prohibitive if it was available.
Also, all of Scoreboard's images were on photo lab (Photo File) paper.
Another one of my purchases is the below Mickey Mantle/Ted Williams piece with a COA from Stephen Rocchi and GFA.
This is a 5X7 piece. When did Mickey Mantle and Ted Williams sign 5X7 photos back in the early 1990's in mass quantity?
A little common sense goes a long way.
Below is my "Forensic Paper Analysis" of the above image.
Again, please observe the dots. This is clearly inkjet paper.
Why didn't Stephen Rocchi and John Gorajczyk discover that during their "Forensic" and Scientific" examination of this piece, after all they claim to be utilizing "the latest technology."
Below is my Mickey Mantle/Whitey Ford item with a COA from Stephen Rocchi and GFA.
My own "Forensic Paper Analysis" of the paper below under my ProScope HR.
Again, it is clearly inkjet paper.
Why didn't Stephen Rocchi and John Gorajczyk discover that during their "Forensic" and "Scientific" examination of this piece?
Photo Lab Paper Under My ProScope HR
My Tom Tresh signed photo.
As you can see in the second photo there are no dots.
Below is a Joe DiMaggio I purchased from AtAuction with a COA from Guaranteed Forensic Authenticators.
It is on 4X6 paper.
Joe DiMaggio passed away March 1999.
So when did Mr. DiMaggio sign these 4X6 photos in quantity on inkjet paper, Mr. Rocchi and Mr. Gorajczyk?
Here is that Joe DiMaggio I purchased from AtAuction from the time I unwrapped it from the box, to the moment I removed it from the frame and matting.
Huge frame and matting for a 4X6 photo?
In my opinion, they did that for two reasons; to deter anyone from removing the photo from the frame and examining the photo itself, or, from having a TPA examine them.
All of the autograph items that I observed AtAuction selling were sold matted and framed.
On the below image observe the "ink spot" in the "io" in DiMaggio. I attempted to remove part of the autograph with a dry erase marker, but was unable to because it is inkjet paper and inkjet paper is porous.
If that was photo lab paper, the dry erase marker would have lifted the "io" from the paper.
Here is that DiMaggio examined under my ProScope HR.
Observe the dots. Again, the photo was produced on inkjet paper.
Again, when did Joe DiMaggio, who passed away in March 1999, sign the above 4X6 image (produced on inkjet paper) in quantity?
A Little History
According to an email I received from AtAuction back in 2010, all of their autograph items were from leftover Scoreboard inventory that was awarded to their source of various Mantle, DiMaggio, Williams, Mays, etc. autographed photos.
Facts:
1. The source of AtAuction's inventory was never awarded any Scoreboard inventory.
2. Except for a few beat-up Mickey Mantle signed photos, there was no Mickey Mantle, Joe DiMaggio, Ted Williams, etc., inventory remaining after Scoreboard went bankrupt.
3. When Scoreboard was in business, their printer NEVER used images produced on inkjet paper.
4. Mickey Mantle only signed 4-6 different images for Scoreboard.
5. Mickey Mantle never signed any 4X6 or 5X7 photos for Scoreboard.
The GFA COA
The GFA COA, while it is an impressive read to the impulsive buyer of autographs or the casual collector, it means zero to serious autograph collectors.
Opining autographs is not NCIS.
And what does "100 Years Of Law Enforcement , Professionally Trained" have to do with opining autographs?
From The GFA Website
New Technology And Sophistication
As of Sept. 2011, the sports memorabilia authentication companies have used collectors and dealers as their authenticators. These authenticators, highly respected in the industry have for their collecting and selling expertise have had little or no formal training in forensics and document examination.
Stephen's background in law enforcement along with his years of experience in authentication, working with well-trained forensic and document examiners, combined with today's latest technology, can produce scientific proof that signatures are authentic or counterfeit.
As for the above from the GFA website:
What "New Technology And Sophistication" are Stephen Rocchi and John Gorajczyk referring to and employing?
What Scientific proof that signatures are authentic or counterfeit are Stephen Rocchi and John Goraczyk referring to?
I would think that the first step required from a so-called Forensic Examination (whatever that means) would be to date the item that the autograph is signed on.
Mr. Rocchi and Mr. Goraczyk, according to your website, GFA performs document examination.
So how do you explain the inkjet paper?
Mickey Mantle passed away August 13th, 1995.
Is it possible that Mickey Mantle autographed thousands of various-sized photos produced on inkjet paper?
Absolutely not.
Scoreboard did not use inkjet paper for their images. And if it was available, it would have been cost prohibitive back then.
The GFA Website
Below is document (link) from the GFA website.
http://gfaauthenticated.com/faq/
The last statement reads "Without having the proper training experience, education and exemplars, a third-party authentication is just an opinion, not a scientific fact of determination."
Below is one of GFA's Examination Sheets.
Where is the "Forensic" and "Scientific" examination?
On the below Examination Check Sheet where is the description showing Today's Latest Technology?
You may have to click your mouse on the below image to get a closer view.
Maybe Stephen Rocchi and John Gorajczyk can explain what "Scientific Fact" had them determine that my purchases from AtAuction are authentic autographs?
Did anyone at GFA physically examine any of the pieces I purchased or any of the pieces sold by AtAuction over the past six years and the pieces that I've seen (by the thousands) listed and sold on Ebay?
Remember the HBO Sports segment on forgeries when Armen Keteyian asked (paraphrasing) Frangipani "Didn't you ask yourself where all of this stuff was coming from?"
Now I want to ask Mr. Rocchi, Did you ever ask yourself where those thousands of Mantle, DiMaggio, Williams, Mays, Koufax, etc, autographed photos originated from?
Who At GFA Is/Was Ultimately Responsible For The End Result Authentication Process?
Maybe Stephen Rocchi and John Gorajczyk can explain to the autograph hobby when Mickey Mantle (who passed away August 13, 1995) started signing images of himself produced on inkjet paper.
I will add one more item to this blog.
Below is a Joe DiMaggio that I also purchased from AtAuction.
It comes with a COA from Chris Morales.
Below is an image of the back of the above photo.
I bought it knowing it was a forgery, but I still wanted to examine it myself.
The back of the photo reads "HP Advanced."
When I first read the markings on the back, I immediately emailed HP inquiring about "HP Advanced" paper.
I received an email (still in my possession) from HP dated October 12, 2011 and the first sentence reads "The HP Advanced Photo Paper was initially introduced in 2005."
How could Joe DiMaggio sign a photo on paper that wasn't introduced until six years after his passing?
Joe DiMaggio passed away March 8, 1999.
They have from the beginning, Steve, back over seven years ago.
All of that crap, over that time, has been "authenticated" by the likes of Stephen Rocchi/John Goraczyk of Guaranteed Forensic Authenticators, Ted Taylor, Drew Max, Christopher Morales and Nicholas Burczyk (who never examined one sports autograph).
Yes they still use their names even though these so called authenticates never see these exact items these liars are selling. I was told to reach Chris Morales and Stephen Rocchi about the two items I question. One of those the owner now is trying to make a deal to for me to accept it for $26 instead of $51 I feel that is still high for a machine reprint of Muhammad Ali. I offered $10 to keep it maybe $15 since it has a matted border---they send it matted and closed so no one investigates it further --like checking for ink jet paper etc. They even had a number on the back of the print with Chris Morales that was different from the numbers of showtime memorabilia......really weird--- Now I have emailed him and Stephen to see if they back this kind of BS --NOT signatures--from these sellers one ebay. Like I mentioned before if they just sold REPRINTS and did not act like they had real signatures then sold them cheap this would be at least truthful. But now the woman claims she got the autograph in person from Ali--she wrote in a email because I accused her of selling phony fake autographs. Basically that is guilt if you ask me and a total lie. Then she lowers the price and says its not fake....
Steve, in my opinion, the items I have shown on my various blogs that I purchased from AtAuction are not reprints.
In my opinion, they came right off the "assembly line."
They are not "reprints" of authentic autographs of Mantle, DiMaggio, etc. They come right off the line.
off the line---what is a reprint? a copy of picture with all the info on it....if they are off the assembly line you mean there is a machine that duplicates signatures as well as the picture--so they are phony copied signatures no matter how you look at it right?
Steve,
We believe you're right, that they are machine produced, but there are minor variations. Some appear to be 100% identical, though, because there are probably only so many variations the system can do.
Correct, Steve.
I believe it is a two-step process. First they print the various images (on inkjet paper) of Mantle, DiMaggio, Williams, Maris, etc.
When I first started in computers back in the 1970's, we used something called a plotter.
I believe the second step of the process (the "autograph") is the printing of the autograph. The process is probably a rigid process and the device is unable to duplicate, as an example, an authentic Mantle autograph. That's why they look so mechanically-produced.
When you have an "eye" for autographs, you can opine them immediately as forgeries. No-brainer forgeries.
Check out the "autographs" in this GFA blog.
They are mechanically-penned.
All of this is a very serious issue; at least it is to me.
Wow absolutely brutal and logical takedown. Well done sir.
Thank you, Andrew.
Yes, very well done Christopher. I have one simple question. How is this circle of Florida frauds still allowed to sell on Ebay? HOW?
Posted by CJCollector on November 27, 2024 at 2:23pm 0 Comments 1 Like
Posted by CJCollector on November 11, 2024 at 6:03pm 0 Comments 1 Like
Posted by CJCollector on November 9, 2024 at 2:32pm 7 Comments 0 Likes
© 2024 Created by Steve Cyrkin, Admin. Powered by
Badges | Report an Issue | Privacy Policy | Terms of Service
You need to be a member of Autograph Live to add comments!
Join Autograph Live