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Pioneer Auction - Portland(ia) Oregon

they are holding an auction tomorrow (Sunday 5/13/2012) on LIVEAUCTIONEERS.COM.

A number of items are Babe Ruth signed balls, Lou Gehrig signed ball box, Ty Cobb signed ball box and a 1927 Yankee team signed bat (Ruth, Gehrig et al). There are COAs on a couple of the items from ahhhhhh ACE but none on the bat.

I emailed them asking if there was any paperwork on the bat and they said no - so, I asked what happens if it fails PSA/DNA or JSA. Their terse reply was no refunds of any kind.

 I wrote back saying that I lived in California and have protection under Civil Code Section 1739.7 regarding autographed items sold in the State and into the State by auctioneers.

Their reply:  We have terms and conditions for our sales that we stand behind If you do not agree to these terms and conditions, then please do not bid in our auction.

Looking at their terms and conditions:Reading & Agreeing to Our Terms & Conditions is REQUIRED Before Placing Bids. By Placing a Bid in Our Auction, You Agree that you Have Read, Understood and Agree to all Terms & Conditions and that this is a Legally Binding Contract. All property is sold "AS IS," ALL SALES ARE FINAL - NO Refunds or Credit Card Chargebacks for ANY Reason. Anyone attempting a Chargeback will be Charged a Breach of Contract Fee of $1000.00 OR 50% of their Total, whichever is greater.

Obviously, Pioneer Auctions is a scammer out for the quick buck (like Coachs Corner) but what can you do? I wrote the Attorney General of California (Kamala Harris) about a $100 transaction involving a bad autograph and her reply was for me to take them to court.

Where is the government - you have laws but they won't enforce them. They should be out there soliciting information about these companies and going after them like Operation Bullpen

 

 

 

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Comment by CJCollector on May 14, 2012 at 8:31am
Comment by James Wymer on May 18, 2012 at 1:45am

They have definitely cornered the market on signed boxes.

Comment by James Wymer on May 18, 2012 at 1:49am

I actually considered consigning some non sports related items to them awhile back, but I would rather throw them in the river than put a nickel in their pockets.

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