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Strange baseball awards/luncheon program
I purchased an odd item.
This is a program for a "Baseball Hall of Fame Civic Luncheon sponsored by University of Cincinnati Boosters and Xavier Musketeers"
With a little research, I found that it was a luncheon held on July 10, 1952 by the Mayor of Cincinnati and the Governor of Ohio, and a now-defunct group "Ballplayers of Yesterday". I think it was held at Crosley Field. It is a plain yellow mimeograph luncheon program, with no seal, picture, or even a date. Just a list of the honorees, function speakers and organizers. I found one local newspaper mention of the event from July 9, 1952.
In all, it has 21 signatures. On the front are sigs from 8 hall of famers (all deceased, Jimmie Fox, Mickey Cochrane, Rogers Hornsby, Charles Gehringer, Paul Waner, Charles "Kid" Nichols, Tris Speaker and Connie Mack), the mayor, the country sheriff, and one that I cannot identify. On the back - the scout who signed Mickey Mantle, and 8 other big league players, including HOF Red Schoendeinst, Denny McLain, and Daffy Dean...all but two are deceased. (Cy Young, Fred Clarke, and Bob Feller were also honorees, but no signature).
I know baseball cards and the like, but I have been researching it all night, and I can't find hardly anything on the event or on the item itself.
Any help or advice? Thanks in advance!
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Permalink Reply by Tobin on
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Rich responded, and he believes it is authentic from the scans provided. He did express some concern about the McLain on the back. Thank you for the reference.
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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on
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that was my first reaction. why would Denny McLain sign this piece? But the signatures do look authentic.
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what dont you like about the Hornsby? I dont see anything wrong with it.
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Wow, that's an amazing piece. I can only imagine how many cuts I can make out of it >:)
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I want to thank all of you for viewing my item, and wanted to give an update for those that inquired.
A Denver baseball auction firm has taken an interest in the item and will be adding it to their catalog for an April sale. They will not be charging me a consignment fee. I don't want to name the company specifically because I don't know the rules on that in this forum.
They are having JSA certify the piece, though they said that it is "just a formality".
I'll be dropping off the program tomorrow afternoon, and am very excited to see what happens next! I hate letting it go, just because I know I will never see another one like it. But I bought it as an investment piece, and that's what it is.
Attached is a screen-grab of the only newspaper mention that I could find of the event, on the upper-right.
This is a very interesting forum, so I won't be a "one and done" reader, and thank you all again for your assistance with my little piece of history!
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This company is very reputable, and has 3-4 auctions per year. Rich has looked at my photos and has given me an assessment, and a fair warning not to set my expectations too high, as it is not single-signed item which collectors prefer. I couldn't possibly take a pair of scissors to it, even if I made more money in the long run.
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I'd listen to Dane on this one, go with one of the bigger auction houses and you'll likely get more. I love smaller auction houses myself, because items usually sell for less than they're worth :)
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Permalink Reply by Randy on
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Got to be Mile High Card Company owned by Brian Drent. They are very well known and reputable.
It will likely bring very good money and with no seller fees it is much better than Ebay as you immediately saved 12.5%.
Thye make their cut off the 20% they charge the buyer.
You will have to wait for the next auction and about 45 days after it ends to get your payment.
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Yes, that's who it is. I didn't speak with Brian, but am meeting with him tomorrow afternoon.
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He is very nice and well respected. His auctions tend to be more high end graded cards/sets than autographs but he gets high end items from time to time on autographs as well.
Most auction companies actually charge the consignor for the 3rd party authentication. Hopefully, he will wave that charge as well.
Good luck with it. Could be a couple grand but Richard is right that it could slip through at a lesser price. That is the nature of auctions.
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